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Washington Capitals at Montreal Canadiens, Feb 4, 2012 2:00 PM EST


MONTREAL, CANADA - JANUARY 18:  P.K. Subban #76 of the Montreal Canadiens skates with the puck while being chased by Alex Ovechkin #8 of the Washington Capitals during the NHL game at the Bell Centre on January 18, 2012 in Montreal, Quebec, Canada.  (Photo by Richard Wolowicz/Getty Images)

This will be the second meeting of the season between the Montreal Canadiens and Washington Capitals.

The first meeting didn't fair well for the Canadiens (what game has?), when Michal Neuvirth whitewashed them 3-0 on January 18. Neuvirth has only had three starts since December 26, and given a loss and an 88-footer he let in against the Florida Panthers on Wednesday, we should see Tomas Vokoun between the pipes.

Alexander Ovechkin had one of Washington's three goals that night, and returns from his three-game suspension. While far off his typical season point totals thus far (39 points in 47 games), Ovechkin tends to bring out his A-game against Montreal. He has 27 (13 goals) points in 23 career games against the Canadiens, with 10 points coming while his team is on the man advantage.

Mathieu Perreault also contributed a goal in the last meeting between the two clubs, and has 7 points (5 goals - including a hat trick) in his last 6 games.

As a whole, the Capitals were dumped from third to ninth in the Eastern Conference standings, after the Florida Panthers leap-frogged over them for the Southeast Division lead, Wednesday.

One of the Caps biggest problems is finding wins on the road, where they third worst in the conference at 8-14-3 to go with a minus-20 goal differential.

But whether on the road or not, the Capitals have no problems when leading after 40 minutes. They are 15-0-0 when starting the 3rd period with a lead, which will mean lights out for the Habs if they find themselves in that position this afternoon. Then again having a lead hasn't down the Canadiens much good of late either.

With Canadiens playing their traditional back-to-back Superbowl Weekend afternoon games, Peter Budaj gets the call in goal against the Capitals. Budaj is 0-1 (3.81, .848) in 79 minutes of career action against Washington.

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MONTREAL CANADIENS PROJECTED LINEUP

Forwards

Erik Cole - David Desharnais - Max Pacioretty

Mathieu Darche - Lars Eller - Andrei Kostitsyn

Rene Bourque - Tomas Plekanec - Scott Gomez

Aaron Palushaj - Louis Leblanc - Yannick Weber

Defense Pairings

Josh Gorges - P.K. Subban

Alexei Emelin - Tomas Kaberle

Hal Gill - Raphael Diaz

Goalies

Peter Budaj - Carey Price

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WASHINGTON CAPITALS PROJECTED LINEUP

Forwards

Alex Ovechkin - Marcus Johansson - Alexander Semin

Matt Hendricks - Brooks Laich - Troy Brouwer

Jason Chimera - Mathieu Perreault -Mike Knuble

Keith Aucoin - Jeff Halpern -Joel Ward

Defense Pairings

John Carlson - Karl Alzner

Dmitry Orlov - Roman Hamrlik

Dennis Wideman - Jeff Schultz

Goalies

Tomas Vokoun - Michal Neuvirth

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Nail suspended two games

So he’s just off a knee injury, and is advised to skip the Prospects Game, gives a note from the team doctor to Branch, and he still suspends him for missing it.

He defends himself further in by noting team doctors in Kelowna would have checked to see if he could play, as they did for Grigorenko, but why take the risk, or waste time travelling if they were to say the same thing?

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by Kevin van Steendelaar on Feb 4, 2012 1:37 PM EST reply actions  

Weird situation.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Breaking news: During his pregame comments on the Mothership, PJ Stock noted he is confused.

You heard it here first.

by JD__ on Feb 4, 2012 2:11 PM EST reply actions  

Mommy forgot to sew PJ’s mittens into his coat sleeves?

by HighFructoseCornSyrupSince72 on Feb 4, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh my, bad anthem singer.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 2:12 PM EST reply actions  

To quote Simon Cowell, what the hell was that?

by JD__ on Feb 4, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s so bad I just feel horrible for her. Obviously not ready for this spotlight.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Send her back to Hamilton. She’s been rushed.

by JD__ on Feb 4, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

13 years old. She did a good job considering.

by punkster on Feb 4, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah, she just sucked.

by JD__ on Feb 4, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Disagree. Gomez sucks. She just needs practice and experience.

by punkster on Feb 4, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha!

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

How on earth did she end up there?

by fsaintjacques on Feb 4, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

No idea, but honestly it was a bit unfair to her in the end.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

French anthem! How often does that happen?

by MathMan on Feb 4, 2012 2:14 PM EST reply actions  

In Montreal? A lot, I bet.

…duh. Why did I think this was in Washington?

by MathMan on Feb 4, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

“Desharnais will play against Alexander Ovechkin today.”

by MathMan on Feb 4, 2012 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

67-51-72
46-14-27 (sound familiar? :D )
11-81-52

by MathMan on Feb 4, 2012 2:23 PM EST reply actions  

Plekanec for Head coach?

by Hypnotoad on Feb 4, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know if that’s the best ideALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Tampons to the nostrils for Orlov.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 2:27 PM EST reply actions  

Seems like every shift Eller creates something.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 2:43 PM EST reply actions  

Scoring chances

ES: +0/-5, ST +0/-1

Pleks’s line got plugged for 3 chances against
Desharnais’s and Gomez’s line each took one against.

by Olivier on Feb 4, 2012 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

Um… no chances for?

by MathMan on Feb 4, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Yikes.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Fenwick

Eller +5, Gomez +4, Darche +4
Plekanec +1, Kostitsn, +1, Bourque 0

Meanwhile the DD line is getting hemmed in by Ovechkin’s line:
Desharnais -3, Pacioretty -5, Cole -2

Subban and Gorges predictably best on D, both +3

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 2:55 PM EST reply actions  

I was looking at this… but Ovie’s -3.

by MathMan on Feb 4, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

-2, but that still doesn’t make sense…

Maybe he’s just played more? He is averaging over a minute per shift.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

There’s the answer. RC must have adjusted. I’m shocked.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

He won a lot in the AHL. That means the guy is able to find advantages and exploit them. It’s the complete lack of awareness about what made the team successful and the resulting decisions that are so grating.

It tells me Martin’s savyness was probably more a byproduct of his vast experience than any particular sensibilities to “new stats” and stuff like that. So maybe he didn’t have particularly significant insights to pass along to RC.

by Olivier on Feb 4, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s an interesting point. Not so much awareness of advanced stats as experience to watch for things that relate to them without even knowing it.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Advanced stats are useful to us peons because they help us make sense of what is otherwise an entirely chaotic endeavour.

But you look at advanced stats vs “traditional saw him good coaching experience” (at the NHL level that is) and there is a fairly large overlap, that is maybe 75, if not 90% (they all match up, all watch zone starts, stuff like that).

I think that’s why stats aren’t taking hold quickly in hockey: the advantage isn’t as thourough as it was in Baseball, where they litterally could buy runs for nothing for a while.

by Olivier on Feb 4, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Still, I find it interesting that Dan Blysma banters to Desjardins about Corsi… and the Pens are one of the best clubs in the league despite so many major injuries.

I’m thinking younger guys like him use it to validate/complete their knowledge.

Randy though? Every time he does something good I keep worrying it’s by accident. :-/

by MathMan on Feb 4, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Remember when he accidentally stumbled on a solid D pairing of Emelin and Gorges and promptly never used them again?

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Seems to me like the advantage would be in the GM position and not the coaching position.

I mean if you’re a coach and can’t recognize what’s going on without advanced stats you probably shouldn’t be in the NHL.

Some things have also been counted by coaches forever before fans ever thought to take them into account, like zone starts, line matching and scoring chances.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

By DD’s ice time it looks like his line played nearly equally against the 1st, 2nd and 4th lines. Only really matched against Carlson.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Was that the Habs’ first scoring chance?

by MathMan on Feb 4, 2012 3:23 PM EST reply actions  

Nope, blocked shot. >.>

by MathMan on Feb 4, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

It was a blocked shot so maybe not.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Halfway through the game and they don’t have a scoring chance? I thought the two-man forecheck was going to heal all the offensive woes.

by Roke on Feb 4, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

They had none in the first. Dunno about the second, but it hasn’t looked too hot.

by MathMan on Feb 4, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Going without a scoring chance in a game would be quite the feat…

by Roke on Feb 4, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

They won’t. They have at least one, if the shot chart is to be believe.

by MathMan on Feb 4, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn afternoon games.

by Roke on Feb 4, 2012 3:25 PM EST reply actions  

In other news, Philly is in the midst of an epic comeback attempt.

by MathMan on Feb 4, 2012 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

Pacioretty and Desharnais are the only Habs with negative Fenwick now, while Diaz and Plekanec are the only ones with negative Corsi.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

+ 9 Fenwick +12 Corsi and what? 2 chances?

by Hypnotoad on Feb 4, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

+11 and +16 now, just two chances. Unreal.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

That was also a scoring chance.

by MathMan on Feb 4, 2012 3:32 PM EST reply actions  

So, with 6:36 left in the second period, AKost registered the habs’s 1st scoring chance of the game.

Holy crap.

by Olivier on Feb 4, 2012 3:33 PM EST reply actions  

…Yikes.

Maybe they do suck. >.>

by MathMan on Feb 4, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Just me, or has Mathieu Darche been noticeably better of late?

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 3:35 PM EST reply actions  

Getting more icetime, so more noticeable.

by MathMan on Feb 4, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve been noticing a lot of nice plays in the offensive zones, takeaways and such.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Darche is miles and miles ahead of Blunden. So seeing him where Blunden usually is is quite the shock, yes.

But Darche can play on the PK and was a 60+ points scorer in the AHL. Why teams are giving 4th line icetime to plugs as Blunden when there are guys scoring 50+ points while being able to play in their own zone in the AHL is beyond me.

by Olivier on Feb 4, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

SIZE!

GRIT!

PHYSICAL PLAY!

ENERGY!

Those things are important. Those are the things that make a good 4th-liner! They don’t need to play hockey.

by MathMan on Feb 4, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

The Darches of the AHL are a pretty big market inefficiency.

“But they don’t look like 4th liners”
Because having 12 forwards who can actually play hockey is detrimental to winning.

by Hypnotoad on Feb 4, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you’re right, that’s why it’s such a shock. Seeing Blunden being useless for so long I forgot that we had better players.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Pleks at the point.

by MathMan on Feb 4, 2012 3:38 PM EST reply actions  

This power play unit is terrible

Yeah, I don't like the Bruins, but I HATE the Flyers!

by courtnall on Feb 4, 2012 3:38 PM EST reply actions  

Offensive units are terrible.

by fsaintjacques on Feb 4, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

The Habs are terrible?

Yeah, I don't like the Bruins, but I HATE the Flyers!

by courtnall on Feb 4, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

What they have done to the PP is flat out offensive.

by Olivier on Feb 4, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the problem is precisely that it’s not. Offensive, I mean.

by MathMan on Feb 4, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Scoring chances

+2/-1 at ES this period.

What a weird ass game.

by Olivier on Feb 4, 2012 3:42 PM EST reply actions  

Total perimeter game I guess.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Quite a lot of shots from the slot blocked too. Those WSH defencemen know how to hold the inside of the zone.

by Olivier on Feb 4, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

No doubt with 16 blocked shots, but you’d think something would have gotten through.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Canadiens look like they are just going through the motions. Embarrassing to see that. The playoffs are not going to happen, but have some pride.

Yeah, I don't like the Bruins, but I HATE the Flyers!

by courtnall on Feb 4, 2012 4:05 PM EST reply actions  

They have a bit too much possession for it to be an effort issue.

by MathMan on Feb 4, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Meaningless analogy:

Just because you can brew the coffee doesn’t mean it doesn’t taste like shit.

Yeah, I don't like the Bruins, but I HATE the Flyers!

by courtnall on Feb 4, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Well that should do it.

by MathMan on Feb 4, 2012 4:09 PM EST reply actions  

So predictable. We’ll get a goal with 30 seconds left to bring the 1 goal game record to 9-23

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

This team is just useless. They have not looked sharp more than a single period since the all star break and they have that “we give up” look about them

Yeah, I don't like the Bruins, but I HATE the Flyers!

by courtnall on Feb 4, 2012 4:10 PM EST reply actions  

What was Kaberle thinking, exactly?

by MathMan on Feb 4, 2012 4:22 PM EST reply actions  

“Damn we suck”

Yeah, I don't like the Bruins, but I HATE the Flyers!

by courtnall on Feb 4, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

High risk to try to make something. Stupid but i get it. He also didn’t hook him.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

With the way the season has gone the Habs are going to finish 29th but be bumped down to 3rd overall with some other team winning the draft lottery. Subban will also suffer a career-ending injury in the summer doing charity work. Plekanec will switch to soccer, leading the Czech Republic through World Cup qualifying to get to Brazil.

by Roke on Feb 4, 2012 4:32 PM EST reply actions  

You’re entirely too optimistic. I’m sure the league can find some technicality or other the Habs did wrong and make them forfeit their first-round pick.

by MathMan on Feb 4, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Well that was grim. They can’t even win by their own standby strategy of sucking out loud.

by MathMan on Feb 4, 2012 4:37 PM EST reply actions  

20 games into his coaching career, Randy Cunneyworth is 6-12-2, giving him a full-season points pace of 57.4 points.

Obviously this is a small sample, so the following comparison must be taken with a generous helping of salt, but nevertheless: only two teams, the Blues in 05-06 (57 points) and the Flyers in 06-07 (56 points), have maintained a worse pace over 82 games.

by MathMan on Feb 4, 2012 4:54 PM EST reply actions  

That might be the most damning thing I’ve read this year.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Feb 4, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Addendum to that.

Let’s be nice to Randy and cut off his first four games, since he was getting his feet under him, taking over a troubled team, not fair to expect him to do great right away, needs time to implement his system, yadda yadda yadda, anyway, I’m basically lopping off four straight regulation losses off his record just to make him look better. This makes him 6-8-2. Good for 71.75 points. The 29th overall team this year is on pace for 72 points. That’d be the Edmonton Oilers.

The Habs have become the new Oilers.

by MathMan on Feb 4, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

My God.

Both teams with pretty serious issues on defense. The coaching change and non-existant 2nd-pairing are the two blunders that have the Habs where they are this season.

by Roke on Feb 4, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Even with the non-existent 2nd pairing, the Habs were a top-10 defensive team under Martin. They could paper it over pretty well so long as they had Gomez to keep the puck at the other end.

Then Gomez went down, the second pairing was exposed, JM started scrambling to shelter everyone who needed sheltering, PG decided that the team had been playing poorly despite its record in December, and the rest is history.

by MathMan on Feb 4, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. Montreal is seen as defensive team and I think that has more to do with the quantity of quality two-way forwards that we’ve got than our defense corps.

by Alexandre S on Feb 4, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Key difference that the Habs have real NHL players over 21 in most of their lineup spots.

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by Stephan Cooper on Feb 4, 2012 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

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