Habs Point Paces Through 41 Games: How the Power Play is screwing with counting stats.
With half a season gone and some disappointing results for the Habs the time is ripe to take a look at who has met or exceeded expectations offensively and who has disappointed. Also it is important to look at scoring by game situation to look at which results are due to poor general play, poor 5 on 5 play or the specifically the result of the a bottom ranked power play. For our purposes here, scoring other than even strength and powerplay is treated as irrelevant since the main drivers of the traditional counting stats are these two game states.
Forwards Even Strength:
|
Forwards |
This Season |
82 game pace |
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|
Games |
ESG |
ESGG |
ESP |
ESPG |
ESG |
ESP |
|
|
38 |
11 |
0.29 |
22 |
0.58 |
23.7 |
47.5 |
|
|
41 |
10 |
0.24 |
20 |
0.49 |
20.0 |
40.0 |
|
|
41 |
5 |
0.12 |
19 |
0.46 |
10.0 |
38.0 |
|
|
41 |
5 |
0.12 |
19 |
0.46 |
10.0 |
38.0 |
|
|
36 |
9 |
0.25 |
16 |
0.44 |
20.5 |
36.4 |
|
|
31 |
8 |
0.26 |
15 |
0.48 |
21.2 |
39.7 |
|
|
38 |
6 |
0.16 |
14 |
0.37 |
12.9 |
30.2 |
|
|
39 |
9 |
0.23 |
14 |
0.36 |
18.9 |
29.4 |
|
|
30 |
6 |
0.20 |
12 |
0.40 |
16.4 |
32.8 |
|
|
14 |
2 |
0.14 |
5 |
0.36 |
11.7 |
29.3 |
|
|
41 |
2 |
0.05 |
5 |
0.12 |
4.0 |
10.0 |
|
|
13 |
0 |
0.00 |
4 |
0.31 |
0.0 |
25.2 |
|
|
38 |
2 |
0.05 |
4 |
0.11 |
4.3 |
8.6 |
|
|
18 |
1 |
0.06 |
2 |
0.11 |
4.6 |
9.1 |
|
|
15 |
0 |
0.00 |
0 |
0.00 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
|
|
8 |
0 |
0.00 |
0 |
0.00 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
|
General rule of thumb, top six players score 30-40 even strength points per 82 game season, star even strength forwards exceed 40. Bottom six forwards tend to be below 30 points unless they are having an incredibly good/lucky year.
As a whole this paints a pretty good picture about Montreal's even strength offense. Only Pacioretty is performing at what one would call a star level but the top nine is quite solid. 8 players are within top 6 forward range while Moen and Leblanc for his short stay have been at the edge of that level. The highest number of 30 ES point pace forwards Montreal has had in a season during the past decade is 6 (only twice) so this is a sign of Montreal's marked increase in scoring depth. So is the fact that Montreal could construct 2 complete lines of 35+ point paced forwards and still leave enough talent to form a solid two-way third line with the remains (Moen-Eller-Gionta).
The 4th liners however are weak even for 4th line players. Roling 4 lines doesn't seem to be good strategy with this bunch.
Forwards Power Play:
|
Forwards |
This Season |
82 game pace |
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|
Games |
PPG |
PPGG |
PPP |
PPPG |
PPG |
PPP |
|
|
41 |
3 |
0.07 |
11 |
0.27 |
6.0 |
22.0 |
|
|
41 |
7 |
0.17 |
10 |
0.24 |
14.0 |
20.0 |
|
|
41 |
1 |
0.02 |
7 |
0.17 |
2.0 |
14.0 |
|
|
36 |
1 |
0.03 |
6 |
0.17 |
2.3 |
13.7 |
|
|
38 |
1 |
0.03 |
6 |
0.16 |
2.2 |
12.9 |
|
|
30 |
2 |
0.07 |
3 |
0.10 |
5.5 |
8.2 |
|
|
31 |
2 |
0.06 |
3 |
0.10 |
5.3 |
7.9 |
|
|
38 |
0 |
0.00 |
0 |
0.00 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
|
|
39 |
0 |
0.00 |
0 |
0.00 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
|
|
41 |
0 |
0.00 |
0 |
0.00 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
|
|
14 |
0 |
0.00 |
0 |
0.00 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
|
|
38 |
0 |
0.00 |
0 |
0.00 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
|
|
13 |
0 |
0.00 |
0 |
0.00 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
|
|
18 |
0 |
0.00 |
0 |
0.00 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
|
|
15 |
0 |
0.00 |
0 |
0.00 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
|
|
8 |
0 |
0.00 |
0 |
0.00 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
|
In contrast to the strong even strength results, the power play numbers are much weaker than Montreal is accustomed to. In a typical post-lockout Montreal year there will be at least one or two power play stars that paced for well over 20 PP points (Cammalleri, Kovalev, and Koivu have all been that player) as well as 4 or 5 players above 15 point pace and 6 or 7 above 10. Even accounting for the decrease in the number of power play opportunities over the years this is a much poorer showing then we've come to expect. I was especially expecting more from Pacioretty, who was excellent at point and shot production last year on the power play. This year he still generates loads of shots and chances but appears snake bitten, although that largely evens out his greater than normal conversion on even strength.
Forwards Total 82 Game Pace:
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Forward Total 82 Game Scoring Pace
|
ES Goals
|
ES Points
|
PP Goals
|
PP Points
|
Total Goals
|
Total Points
|
|
|
23.7
|
47.5
|
2.2
|
12.9
|
25.9
|
60.4
|
|
|
20.0
|
40.0
|
14.0
|
20.0
|
34.0
|
60.0
|
|
|
10.0
|
38.0
|
6.0
|
22.0
|
16.0
|
60.0
|
|
|
10.0
|
38.0
|
2.0
|
14.0
|
12.0
|
52.0
|
|
|
20.5
|
36.4
|
2.3
|
13.7
|
22.8
|
50.1
|
|
|
21.2
|
39.7
|
5.3
|
7.9
|
26.5
|
47.6
|
|
|
16.4
|
32.8
|
5.5
|
8.2
|
21.9
|
41.0
|
|
|
12.9
|
30.2
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
12.9
|
30.2
|
|
|
18.9
|
29.4
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
18.9
|
29.4
|
|
|
11.7
|
29.3
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
11.7
|
29.3
|
|
|
0.0
|
25.2
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
25.2
|
|
|
4.0
|
10.0
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
4.0
|
10.0
|
|
|
4.6
|
9.1
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
4.6
|
9.1
|
|
|
4.3
|
8.6
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
4.3
|
8.6
|
|
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
|
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
As a whole the forwards has done well on ES and poorly on 5 on 5. Still, if you were to tell me that Montreal would have a 60 point average first line, a 50 point average 2nd line and a 33 point average 3rd line going into this season with 5 20+ goal and 1 30+ goal paced forwards I probably would be content if not ecstatic about that kind of result. which is fairly typical for an decent scoring NHL team and the Boston Bruins were a Cup-winning team with pretty similar results from their top-nine last season.
Veteran Forwards:
|
Established Forwards 82 Game Pace |
This Year |
Last 4 Years |
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|
ES |
PP |
Total |
ES |
PP |
Total |
|
|
40.0 |
20.0 |
60.0 |
36.7 |
10.7 |
47.4 |
|
|
38.0 |
22.0 |
60.0 |
37.7 |
20.2 |
57.9 |
|
|
Michael Cammalleri |
36.4 |
13.7 |
50.1 |
40.7 |
26.4 |
67.1 |
|
39.7 |
7.9 |
47.6 |
34.0 |
14.3 |
48.3 |
|
|
32.8 |
8.2 |
41.0 |
37.2 |
15.4 |
52.6 |
|
|
29.4 |
0.0 |
29.4 |
13.1 |
0.3 |
13.4 |
|
|
25.2 |
0.0 |
25.2 |
36.3 |
21.3 |
57.6 |
|
|
10.0 |
0.0 |
10.0 |
24.4 |
4.6 |
29.0 |
|
Looking at the track records of the veteran forwards we can see who is over or underperfoming what we could expect from their career. Cole is the only one of the top scorers to significantly exceed expectations, largely from the topsy-turvy result of the weakest career power play scorer having one of the top results with the man advantage while almost everyone else suffers. Plekanec is basically dead on his usual performance points-wise, which is as a solid 60 point center (basically that of a 1a/1b centerman) and the weighted average between a 70 point dynamo and 37 point disappointment. That he's doing this with a brutal defensive load, (by far the toughest quality of competition metrics and a brutal 42.2% ozone start) is a testament to his incredible two-way ability. Likewise Kostitsyn is having a pretty typical Kostitsyn year, with stronger ES numbers compensating for weaker power play results.
Cammalleri and Gionta are the twin under perfomers offensively. Neither is doing that badly at even strength, although they are on the lower side, considering both are probably playing a tougher ES role than normal, with Gionta playing the same role as Plekanec and Cammalleri also being pressed into a tough minutes role (without the defensive faceoff responsiblities though). Both are getting about half the power play points they typically would, and this is the biggest reason a 60+ point winger is pacing for 50 and a 50 point winger is pacing for 40+. The one consolation is that Cole is having a decent Cammalleri scoring season while Cammalleri is having a decent Cole year.
Moen's atypical offensive outburst has essentially replaced Darche as a depth scoring winger. Gomez is way lower than normal but has only played 13 games so there is too little data to make definite conclusions whether he will be as low scoring as last season if he plays.
Averaging out the totals of the pace of all the veterans but Gomez (whose barely played) and you essentially get a veteran group that is performing almost exactly at the level to be expected of them. Scoring wise, the loss of Gomez is pretty much cancelled out by new scoring from Desharnais and Eller. So collectively it is probably fair to say that Montreal's forwards are doing about as well offensively as they can be expected to do. On the power play however, this group is only doing about 2/3rds as good as their track record, although that goes up to 4/5ths excluding Gomez.
Overall, switch the seasons Cole and Cammalleri, as well as Gionta and Kostitsyn and Moen and Darche, are having and put Gomez where Desharnais is while Desharnais has the combination of Leblanc and Gomez's totals and the scoring results from the forwards are about what I would have guessed going into the season.
Defensemen Even Strength:
|
Defense |
This Season |
82 game pace |
|||||
|
Games |
ESG |
ESGG |
ESP |
ESPG |
ESG |
ESP |
|
|
40 |
2 |
0.05 |
12 |
0.30 |
4.1 |
24.6 |
|
|
41 |
1 |
0.02 |
11 |
0.27 |
2.0 |
22.0 |
|
|
41 |
2 |
0.05 |
11 |
0.27 |
4.0 |
22.0 |
|
|
39 |
2 |
0.05 |
8 |
0.21 |
4.2 |
16.8 |
|
|
36 |
1 |
0.03 |
7 |
0.19 |
2.3 |
15.9 |
|
|
34 |
0 |
0.00 |
6 |
0.18 |
0.0 |
14.5 |
|
|
9 |
1 |
0.11 |
1 |
0.11 |
9.1 |
9.1 |
|
|
8 |
1 |
0.13 |
1 |
0.13 |
10.3 |
10.3 |
|
|
30 |
0 |
0.00 |
1 |
0.03 |
0.0 |
2.7 |
|
Much like the forwards this is a group that has no one exceptional at even strength but quite a few good producers for their position. Last season 22 points would put you in the top 30 for even strength scoring among blueliners and most years being on that pace will put you in the top 60. Having three defenders who can score at that rate is pretty good if unspectacular. Getting above 30 ES points is a rarity for defenders, which only happens to a few each season. Big offensive numbers for defenseman are almost always a result of strong powerplay production.
Defenseman Power Play:
|
Defense |
This Season |
82 game pace |
|||||
|
Games |
PPG |
PPGG |
PPP |
PPPG |
PPG |
PPP |
|
|
39 |
3 |
0.09 |
6 |
0.18 |
7.2 |
14.5 |
|
|
41 |
0 |
0.00 |
6 |
0.15 |
0.0 |
12.0 |
|
|
40 |
1 |
0.03 |
5 |
0.13 |
2.1 |
10.3 |
|
|
41 |
0 |
0.00 |
3 |
0.08 |
0.0 |
6.3 |
|
|
36 |
0 |
0.00 |
0 |
0.00 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
|
|
34 |
0 |
0.00 |
0 |
0.00 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
|
|
9 |
0 |
0.00 |
0 |
0.00 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
|
|
8 |
0 |
0.00 |
0 |
0.00 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
|
|
30 |
0 |
0.00 |
0 |
0.00 |
0.0 |
0.0 |
|
If there is one place Montreal has been particularly subpar this half season it is here, especially keeping in mind that most of Kaberle's points were in Carolina. Montreal has become accustomed to having strong power play quarterbacks that put up big point totals every year. Be they Wisniewski and Subban (29 and 18), Bergeron and Markov (22 in 60 and 16 in 45), Markov and Schneider (39 and 19), Markov and Streit (32 and 34), Souray and Markov (48 and 32 one year, 21 and 24 the other). Without an elite power play defenseman like Markov or Wisniewski to lead the way it seems the power play has become completely incapable of scoring goals, although they produce plenty of shots and chances. Perhaps the Kaberle-Subban combination or a shift in luck can turn it around but it is here that Andrei Markov's absence seems keenest felt and it may be fair to say that the resulting loss in powerplay efficiency is the reason why Montreal finds itself out of a playoff spot.
Glossary: ESG: Even strength goal. ESP: Even strength point. PPG: Power play goal. PPP: Power play point. ESGG: Even strength goal per game. ESPG: Even strength point per game. PPGG: Power play goal per game. PPPG: Power play point per game.
Stats are calculated from numbers from NHL.com
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Be they Wisniewski and Subban (29 and 18), Bergeron and Markov (22 in 60 and 16 in 45), Markov and Schneider (39 and 19), Markov and Streit (32 and 34), Souray and Markov (48 and 32 one year, 21 and 24 the other)
Notice that on all the duos, both defensemen are all left handed shot ( except the wiz and Subban duo that are both right handed shot). In all those cases, the shooter plays on his off-side which makes the one-timer a lot easier.
This year, the passer is a lefty (Kaberle) and the shooter are R (Subban, Diaz or Weber). It make it difficult to set up the one timer unless you play both to their off-side. I don’t know if Kaberle would be confortable setting up the PP on his off-side. His good year in Toronto was with McCabe, also a left handed shot.
Our L shooters are Gill, Gorges, Campoli or Emelin.
The other problem is that they don’t have a threat on the PP. Last year, the other teams had to cheat toward Cammalleri or Subban and that opened passing lanes. Montreal don’t have anyone to force their opponents to cheat.
Like Chris said lat night, if you don’t force the goalie to move lateraly, they will make the save. In the PP, you need to open the passing lanes to get some cross ice pass and create chances. The Habs are not doing that right now.
The PP setup significantly changed this season and Kaberle has, indeed, been playing from the right point most of the time. He looked pretty ok there. Plekanec, IMNSHO, looked better as the month of November went by and he and Weber were onto something.
Having a passer on his off side at the point gives the guy a wider passing angle which, in turn, allows the shooter to go deeper into the zone. Often, you’d see Weber go down to the top of the faceoff circle and align himself on the far post. Plekanec then simply had to skate toward the center of the ice along the blue line; if his cover moved too agressively toward the center, he could feed it to Cammalleri/Pacioretty/whomever was the shooter set up along the right board (who then had a nice angle to step into the box and fire); if the cover stayed put, Pleks could feed it to Weber on top of the circles, #68 then blasting it at short range (with the goalie being screened and on the move).
That was a pretty good setup. Then, they put Subban in; #76 has a more powerful and accurate shot and thus isn’t as agressive as Weber on the PP. That means he stays a good 10 feets higher and often will be too far toward the left wall, thus taking a shot from a crappy angle. As of today, Weber still has more PP scoring chances than Subban and it’s pretty clear why: he is far better at taking advantage of this year’s pp strategies.
I think the Kaberle/Weber combo, if given a minimum of time, can do some pretty big damages.
Time For A Reality Check...
this is not a good hockey team boys & girls. They are not a contender & are a stretch to even make the play-offs. Those currently injured & not playing will not make a major difference. Injuries happen & management did not have the team positioned to deal with them effectively. The team needs a new GM (and I do not care what language he speaks), who can get with ownership & come up with a plan to get the team back to respectability.
Nothing Is Fool proof if you have the right fools.
I think you missed the part where the Habs lead the league in injuries. There is no conceivable way a GM could have planned for this level of injury without overpaying for players that weren’t going to play due to excessive depth. Put another way, if the team had been positioned to deal with this level of injuries and the injuries hadn’t happened, the squad would have been weaker.
Even with that, though, the Habs would have been fine with a bit more PP luck. It’s amazing how a club that’s been top-10 in the PP in all but one year since the lockout is now dead last.
If the Habs had overpaid for depth players, fans would complain that they are wasting money on depth players if they remained healthy.
It is a moving target of criticism.
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by Chris Boyle on Jan 11, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
Ugh. Why is it I see Cunneyworth’s moves a 1 step back, 1 step forward? I like double-shifting a top-9 forward instead of playing a defenseman on the 4th line and matching up Eller in tough-minutes were pretty nice decisions. He’s had some bad ones though and it looks like Boston’s going to benefit from his next one:
http://twitter.com//BrianWildeCTV/statuses/157161666772086784
Cunneyworth says looks like Blunden to play on Plekanec line. Likes his ability to be physical body with other two.
Erik Cole, Max Paciroretty, Andrei Kostitsyn, and Travis Moen are all big bodies and he decides to go with the 16th forward.
In his defense, that’s his third line, not his first. But Darche is better, heck, they could even use Nokelainen.
He needs to get this whole idea that physicality has intrinsic value.
He’s like Cabonneau but Carbonneau at least used NHL-calibre players for that role (though you could say injuries have tied Randy’s hands somewhat).
I guess the good news is he certainly won’t be back next season though it’s a shame that the departure will be framed as if it was more about language than it was about coaching ability.
@ArponBasu: #Habs Randy Cunneyworth, when asked if Tomas Plekanec and Mike Cammalleri need to regain his trust: “I think to some extent, sure.”
Sigh.
However:
@JohnLuTSNMtl: #Habs Weber will return to the lineup Thursday in Boston. He will man the left point on the first PP unit beside Kaberle.
’bout time.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Jan 11, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
Yikes, you could have at least promoted one of Kostitsyn or Moen while calling up Leblanc for 3rd line duty.
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by Stephan Cooper on Jan 11, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
Cammy complaining about the team’s “loser attitude”, the way they “play afraid to make mistakes” approach, and his ice time.
Well, that didn’t take long.
Was that an outright trade request? That would suck.
You’re referring to this?.
Actually reading the article (through google translate mind you) he’s really taking shots at the game plan (and his usage). When I saw the “we play like losers” quote I thought it was about just the poor on-ice performance but he went a lot further than that.
I just hope we don’t see any Corey-like panic moves.
We may not be the only ones unimpressed with Randy’s personnel usage. Wasn’t Cammy supposed to be one of the ringleaders who were trying to get Martin fired?
IIRC though it’s not the first time he speaks up about the team’s lack of creativity. He has a point, too, dumping and chasing, and bombing from the points with screens, that’s just not a winning strategy if it’s all you ever do.
You can’t go for the “safe” play all the time, it’s a good way to hand the puck back to the opposition and ends up costing you.
Cammalleri being among those who wanted Martin fired was being mumbled about but I didn’t put much stock into specific individuals wanting a coaching change. That stuff is too easy for a radio host to dream up of in an afternoon as a talking point and then it snowballs from there.
Well he looks decidedly unhappy with the new guy. This is the second time he comes out and criticizes the tactics.
Yeah. You can’t be sceptical about Cammalleri not liking Cunneyworth’s tactics because of the comments he’s actually made in public. I don’t remember reading any directly quoted public criticisms of Martin from players though.
Cunneyworth dodged a bullet here. Cammalleri is pretty disliked among media types right now, so the fact that the new coach has, right off the bat, alienated one of his vets, will blow by unnoticed.
Pretty darn sure if Cammalleri isn’t happy, Pleks ain’t no happy camper either.
What a mess.
I’m looking at this and remembering the “leadership core” of earlier:
Gomez, Gionta, Cammalleri, Plekanec, Gill, Gorges.
The first two are out with injuries, and I can’t imagine Gomez will be too enthused with a “keep it simple, dump and chase” approach. We can safely say that Cammy is unhappy. We’re speculating that Pleks also is. And he’s cutting down Gill’s icetime to smithereeens.
Randy might just be in the process of losing the room in record time.
Well when RC keeps spouting that JM was his role model its enough to give these guys the shakes…especially Cammy and the veteran leadership core.
AS for Stephan’s article and stat info……well what do you expect from the Gang that Can’t Shoot Straight. When we avg. like 2.01 gpg. for the last 20 yrs. it takes a while for that kind of slump to turn around. I mean actually when was the last time we had one let alone 2 boneafide goal scoring threats on our team at the same time. Its embarrassing as hell to look at the scoring standings and you keep looking lower, and lower, and lower and we’re still not represented. Even the crappy teams have guys placed higher than we do. I mean the league should get a trophy out for us…Tops in 2.01 GPG scoring….we’d clean up every year. Instead we draft guys out of junior that aim for the net and hit the corner boards and bring that trait to the NHL and they’re on our 2nd line. That has to stop. We need to find some big time scoring threats. After seeing the hi-lites of the last game….we really need to get off this Smurf Footprint and move on to a bigger and bolder plan. Min. 6’3" 220lbs and up + can skate, can play, can shoot & score and everything in betwwen except take penalties.
"It's only through change we learn to grow".
by Canadian Jet on Jan 12, 2012 1:16 AM EST up reply actions
You draft only 6`3`` and 220 pounds and you`ll miss most of the good offensive players in the NHL. That`s a brutal strategy. One of the big reasons the Canadiens`s drafting stunk in the 90`s was that they were always chasing size over anything else.
As for the gang that couldn`t shoot straight, if these show anything its that their only problem is the powerplay, tends to be more of matter of systems and usage and having personal to fill roles than individual efforts.
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by Stephan Cooper on Jan 12, 2012 4:19 AM EST up reply actions
From Lowetide, one of my favourite blogger (not a big stat guy, just a fantastic blogger), I learned two great expressions:
- Defensemen develop by sundial (by which he means: never quit on a d-man before he turns 25; damn true)
- Dont draft coke machines (ie: dont draft on size).
This he learned from watching closely the Oilers trough high and low. There isn’t a single stats in these but I still hold them to be pretty good rule of thumbs.
Cue the reaction of hatred for him basically telling the truth.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jan 11, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Of course, he’s basically offered himself up to be the scapegoat for the rest of the year. Unless he lights up the Bruins, I guess, then it may become “leadership”.
He was trending towards scapegoat status already with the Gomez whipping boy not playing, especially since he has the highest cap hit after him.
Like I`ve shown here, for Cammalleri its really a matter that what makes him a good player rather than a run of the mill top-six winger focused on offense is his powerplay scoring. That`s been abysmal this year and how much of that is his fault is debatable.
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by Stephan Cooper on Jan 11, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
How true.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jan 11, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
Found the other occurence. It was also post-Randy: http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/332212.html
“We’re walking a thin line. We always want to keep things simple and work hard, but we have to make things happen, play hockey, you know”
“it would be too easy to say we need to shoot more [on the PP] and put guys in front of the net”
“a shot should be the result of a good play, not just the objective”
There is no doubt in my mind Mike Cammalleri is a 100% pure and certified self-centered jerk.
And I’m always amazed people would care about that. But the guy, when he talks hockey, actually makes sense and sounds like he has a pretty good understanding of the game (most of these guys actually sound like that; they are, after all, the cream of the crop).
But at the end of the day, again, the onus falls on the organization. Had Cammalleri been remotely aware of the kind of things François Gagnon’s been writing about the club and about him, he would never have spoken like that, I’m pretty darn sure.
What a mess.
Cammy knows enough not to criticize a coach in public, regardless of what the media say. He’s been through Calgary and grew up in Toronto, it’s not like he’s not aware of what hockey media is like.
AFAIK, he’s never critcized Martin’s tactics before. As you point out, this means that the coach has alienated at least one key veteran 5-10 games in.
And if things are how Cammy makes them sound, that basically Randy has no tactics and it’s all about “hard work” and “keep things simple”, then I don’t blame him for being frustrated and I doubt he’s the only one.
Here is the problem for me.
The general consensus among fans is that “Martin was a boob and RC is in here and he is going to make all the entitled accountable”. The issue I have with that is that Martin shouldn’t have been fired IMO.
With that being the case, the opposite of what RC is doing is what I would prefer.
The thing that is really concerning is that this is EXACTLY what Mario Tremblay did when he came in. This is MY room. Next thing I know, my favourite player of all time is out the door for the poo poo platter.
The Habs are making me VERY nervous over the last month.
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I was going to make a comment about Randy being like Tremblay without having run a player out of town yet but I decided not to. The possibility of that happening is my biggest concern from now until the new coach comes into place.
Randy’s running uncomfortably close to Tremblay on the Habs’ head coach quality continuum. With my confidence in Gauthier (or the people above him) shaken because of the Martin firing/Kaberle move in concert this is very worrying.
Efficiency is not the goal. Efficiency is a means towards a goal
Unrelated to Stephan’s powerplay piece or our Cammalleri discussion.
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2012/1/11/2700068/this-is-a-permalink
There are some parallels to hockey here though the salary cap distorts things a bit. The criticism of high-cap-hit players on pretty much every team seems relevant to what the piece is saying.
I made a pretty similar point on Oliver`s blog a few weeks back.
Montreal, as one of the top 3 wealthiest teams in the league, isn`t looking for cap-efficiency as a thing of its self. They`ll look for it in some areas to free up space but otherwise they will try their best to use the money they have as an asset to get things they need/want. Especially with the tax situation they aren`t in a position to choose efficient spending on players or inefficient spending, typically they are in the spend money inefficiently or don`t bother to spend it at all situation.
Cammalleri, Gionta, Gomez and Kaberle all make much more sense in that context.
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by Stephan Cooper on Jan 11, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
I agree; cap space is only important for the current season.
In the summer, you can always work out thing to make it work. Chi, NYR or Phi all had problem with the cap and they all managed to work it out during the summer.
Rangers did it by sending Redden in the minors, Chi by trading some players, sending Huet in Europe and last summer they traded Campbell for a guy htey could buy out with a low cap hit.
The flyers used the injury reserve list, trades and waivers.
Plus the cap always went up every summer, it’s only a question of how much does it go up in the summer. ( maybe not this summer because of the new CBA, but they will probably have something like a buy out period)
As long as you don’t give a player a 10 years contract, you shouldn’t worry about the cap space for next year, too many variable.
Worth reading: Arpon’s paper on the same comments: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=611212
Lost in translation much?

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