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Can the Canadiens make the playoffs?

The emotional response is YES! Did you see Lars Eller the other night? We are back baby!

The rational response is "in order to qualify for the playoffs, the Canadiens who are a .470 hockey team need to play like a .650 team and this is not going to happen".

I have issues with both responses.

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Number one is drunk with euphoria.

Number two is a bit more complicated.

Number two makes the mistake of assuming that the 2012 Montreal Canadiens are a .470 hockey team because that is what they have accomplished through 41 games.

I learned a harsh lesson during the 2007 season. I used this flawless logic to determine that the Canadiens playing .616 hockey through Jan 9th, couldn't possibly be caught by the Maple Leafs. In order for this miracle to occur, the Canadiens would have to finish the season below .500 (.474 to be exact) and the Leafs who were a lowly .500 club would need to morph into a .618 hockey team. We all know how the titanic battle for 17th place ended.

I mentioned earlier this season that I view the schedule as 82 separate two point events. When injuries, luck and strength of schedule are factored in, a half season sample is not enough to determine the ultimate account of what a team is.

Proof? Using shrpsports.com I used Jan 9th as a cut off date and went through the last 4 seasons. Here are some of the massive discrepancies between first and second half results.

Bold indicates playoff team.

2008
1st
Half
2nd
Half
Positive
Differential

2008 1st
Half
2nd
Half
Negative
Differential
Washington Capitals .477 .679 .202 Ottawa Senators .707 .439 -.268
Los Angeles Kings .364 .513 .150
St. Louis Blues .588 .381 -.207
NY Rangers .523 .667 .143
Detroit Red Wings .784 .605 -.179
Anaheim Ducks .565 .694 .129
Vancouver Canucks .619 .450 -.169
Edmonton Oilers .477 .605 .128
NY Islanders .536 .425 -.111
Chicago Blackhawks .488 .590 .102




2009 1st
Half
2nd
Half
Positive
Differential

2009 1st
Half
2nd
Half
Negative
Differential
St. Louis Blues .438 .679 .241
Montreal Canadiens .675 .464 -.211
Ottawa Senators .410 .593 .183
Colorado Avalanche .524 .317 -.207
Pittsburgh Penguins .524 .688 .164
San Jose Sharks .813 .619 -.193
Atlanta Thrashers .393 .538 .145
Detroit Red Wings .763 .607 -.155





Boston Bruins .780 .634 -.146





Calgary Flames .659 .537 -.122


Phoenix Coyotes .536 .425 -.111
2010 1st
Half
2nd
Half
Positive
Differential
2010 1st
Half
2nd
Half
Negative
Differential
Carolina Hurricanes .360 .628 .268
New Jersey Devils .733 .513 -.220
St. Louis Blues .489 .618 .130
Calgary Flames .633 .446 -.187
Washington Capitals .682 .803 .121
Buffalo Sabres .693 .513 -.180





Chicago Blackhawks .733 .622 -.122
2011 1st
Half
2nd
Half
Positive
Differential

2011 1st
Half
2nd
Half
Positive
Differential
New Jersey Devils .286 .713 .427
Colorado Avalanche .571 .250 -.321
Calgary Flames .476 .675 .199
Atlanta Thrashers .567 .392 -.175
San Jose Sharks .547 .744 .197
Detroit Red Wings .702 .563 -.140
Buffalo Sabres .500 .671 .171
Dallas Stars .640 .513 -.127
Toronto Maple Leafs .450 .583 .133
NY Rangers .616 .513 -.103
Anaheim Ducks .556 .107 .107




Since 2008 over one third of the league suffered a massive fluctuation (+/- .100) in winning percentage when comparing the first and second half. Look at last season. If viewed with the perspective that the .286 Devils were actually a sub .300 team, then imagining them finishing the season playing .713 seemed impossible. The problem was that in October McKeens Hockey viewed them as a .640 team. In December everybody picked up collective amnesia and based their opinions on the immediate results. Playing .713 seemed ridiculous in contrast to .286, but not so extreme in regards to the pre-season expectation three months earlier.

Is it accurate to perceive the 2012 Canadiens as a .470 team? Three months ago I believed that this was the best collection of talent the Canadiens have had since 1996. Even if we place the expectation level at equal to 2011, then the belief is the Habs were a .585 team in the pre-season. Is it a great leap for them to go from .585 to .650? Over 41 games that is three extra wins.

Is that as improbable as the 2000 Canadiens? How could a team that won 12 of 41 games possibly turn around and win 23 of 41 in the second half? Huge discrepancies in performance are not uncommon for the Canadiens over the last decade. It is almost the norm for this franchise since 2000. Only three of eleven seasons since 2000 have resulted in a winning percentage swing of less than .050. Almost half have resulted in massive swings of .100 or more. Collapses and surges included.

Montreal Canadiens
1st Half
2nd Half Differential
2000 .366 .646 .280
2001 .357 .500 .143
2002 .477 .590 .112
2003 .512 .425 -.086
2004 .547 .590 .043
2006 .550 .583 .033
2007 .616 .474 -.142
2008 .595 .675 .079
2009 .675 .464 -.211
2010 .511 .571 .061
2011 .583 .588 .005

Viewing these types of numbers indicates to me that it isn't as improbable as the surface data would indicate.

All of the factors that could lead to a second half surge are there. The Canadiens are not really as bad as their record indicates. They have failed to maintain their third period leads and if the shootout hadn't been such a disaster, they would be much closer to a playoff spot. Their fenwick percentage was outstanding for two months, but the results never materialized. A healthy team for 30+ games could produce the run that is needed to produce a playoff spot.

I understand the basic logic and rationale of doubting their ability to produce at 100+ point pace, but recent history has proven that this is not an uncommon occurrence. The Habs need to keep it close through January until Markov returns. If they can do that, the playoffs are a strong possibility.

Would I bet on it? No. I am not placing one cent of my hard earned blogging pennies on the health of Markov's knees, nor am I placing it on a team that has been giving Mike Blunden 10+ minutes per game.

History does indicate it isn't as improbable as many think.

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Well, as you said elsewhere (or was it Andrew?), give them a 5+ winning streak right around now and things could get interesting.

Too bad we got the Blues and Bruins standing in the way. Would love to have Gomez back for the Boston game. My guess is RC would run 67/14/72 – 51/81/46 – 13/11/21 by the 5th minute of the second period. I want to see the kind of percentages that top-9 could put up over a 15 games stretch (81 and 51 took a couple of step forward since the beginning of the season).

Oh, who am I kidding. Lucic will decapitate Pleks and we’ll get Blunden centering 13/21…

by Olivier on Jan 10, 2012 11:16 AM EST reply actions  

This was essentially me writing 1000 words to convince myself that I should still watch the second half of the season.

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by Chris Boyle on Jan 10, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I do not know words to convey the dread that crept over me during the week after Martin got canned, seeing all these awful moves, realizing I actually had to score chances for the remainder of the year.

Hopefully they avoid injuries and make it entertaining. I must say on a strict occupationnal level, I won’t mind taking the playoffs off, tough.

by Olivier on Jan 10, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I believe it was Bruce who said the precentages all change with a 5 game win streak.

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by Chris Boyle on Jan 10, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, they would. If the Habs string 5 more wins together (a 7 game win streak total) they put themselves in a position where they can get away with going .625 the rest of the way — 102.5 point pace.

Not a sure thing by any means, but a lot more manageable.

by MathMan on Jan 10, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Y’know, I really, really want to see that lineup.

by MathMan on Jan 10, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

That top 9 would be fantastic to see.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Jan 10, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Montreal clearly isn’t a .470 team, but they’re also likely not a .650 team either. It’s certainly possible for them to get .650 over 41 games, more likely than the Habs going .450 for 41 games IMO. But it remains a long shot. They would need a long stretch of the kind of good luck they haven’t had since the 2010 playoffs (well, maybe not quite that much).

What’s been pointed out to me in the other post, though, is that the Habs are surrounded with such crappy teams that it really won’t hurt their drafting position much to try to make a go for it. And who knows, the process may be entertaining even if the results end up falling short.

by MathMan on Jan 10, 2012 11:21 AM EST reply actions  

The 2000 team wasn’t a .650 team either. Somehow that craptastic team put together a 41 game run on fumes with arms, legs and groins littered all over the ice. Look at this lineup!

Their fate is linked to their performance this month and the return of Gomez and Markov, not Mike Blunden.

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by Chris Boyle on Jan 10, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I miss Oleg Petrov.

by Roke on Jan 10, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Not me.

Vigneault got that bunch of dead bodies to a .500 record and even managed to get them to draw more penalties than they were given.

Buddy was a pretty good coach. Francophone too. Wonder what he’s up to lately?

by Olivier on Jan 10, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

And they fired him because the Habs regressed the next season.

The guy takes THAT roster to within one win of the playoffs and he is fired the next season. He probably lost the room.

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by Chris Boyle on Jan 10, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Interesting article

Curious if you feel the negative differential teams might be influenced by those teams performing differently once playoff position is secured or highly likely? Akin to score effect within a game for a leading team. At least in 08 and 09 there’s some strong playoff teams taking big steps back

by TomServo42 on Jan 10, 2012 11:36 AM EST reply actions  

I just think it is percentages normalizing. The WIngs are on there 3 separate times.

.784 or .763 is 120+ points in the regular season. Only five teams in history have cracked .800+ over a whole season and three of them were pre-1950 with a much shorter schedule.

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by Chris Boyle on Jan 10, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Streak changes everything!!

If they can continue on this current run, another 4 or 5 wins aren’t out of the question. I also agree that with a few bounces their way, 7 or 8 points doesn’t exist. Geez, just half of those shootout games puts them at 7th or 8th. a couple more makes it to 6th. This is not over by a longshot. I think Cunneyworth realises that Cammy, Gionta and Gomez are not the be all end all, here in MTL. I think his confidence in Eller, Desharnais, Cole and Co. will prove to be the way to go. Another 10 games will reveal the way this is going to go.

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by JosephF on Jan 10, 2012 12:24 PM EST reply actions  

Great point on the shootouts. If the team can go .500 or better the rest of the year in those, that’ll help a lot.

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by Bruce Peter on Jan 10, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

While the Devils went on a huge run in the 2nd half last year, they saw the writing on the wall in mid-March. The Habs need to be nearly perfect so that the illusion of possibility lingers. If they fall any further out, they’re more or less dead meat. The loser point, if anything, will see to that.

Teams simply don’t recover very often when they fall too far out. Buffalo bucked that trend last year, but it’s not something that I would count on happening very often. I also happen to believe that waiting for others to vacate their playoff aspirations is folly. The Canadiens need to take a big bite out of their deficit in January where 6 of their remaining 9 games are at home. It’s the lightest month in terms of workload, and things only get worse in Feb and March. They have to make up ground this month because the remaining schedule may be too intense to maintain the .650 win % required to grab the 8th place.

by kyleroussel on Jan 10, 2012 12:49 PM EST reply actions  

It has happened once per season since 2008.

Washington in 2008.
St. Louis in 2009.
Carolina in 2010.
Buffalo in 2011.

If you look over the candidates this season, Montreal is one of the prime ones to be able to bridge that gap. Everything rides on what they do until Markov’s supposed return at the end of the month.

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by Chris Boyle on Jan 10, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

And how Randy ends up using the personnel. Early returns aren’t encouraging, but apparently it’s a learning period. How he ends up using Gomez will tell us a lot about what kind of coach he is.

by MathMan on Jan 10, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I am more optimistic then I was two weeks ago after the disaster of his first two games of rolling four lines.

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by Chris Boyle on Jan 10, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I liked to see Gomez on the wing earlier in the seaon. I would like to see what he can do with Eller down the middle and maybe Gionta on the RW

by Silvertip on Jan 10, 2012 1:23 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Somebody else noted that Gomez’s game might not translate very well on the wing and I think I agree.

To me, Desharnais is the best candidate to slide over. He’s at his best down low in the opposing zone, rather slow (but pretty darn efficient) and even tough he’s taken a great many strides forward, he remains sub-par in his own end. Also, when in the defensive zone, whenever his winger falls back he immediately goes up and takes said winger’s spot instead of driving the defensive play.

I still think he’d take the Eller/AKost combo to another level.

by Olivier on Jan 10, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, you can double-shift him as a 4th C.

We are just slightly over-estimating Desharnais if we pencil him as a better all-around C than Gomez but I believe that in doing so, we also are ignoring his remarkable flexibility and usefulness.

I’ll have to dig in the numbers, but the kid is a feather to Jacques Martin’s cap.

by Olivier on Jan 10, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

No. Martin ruined him by not putting him as the number one center.

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by Chris Boyle on Jan 10, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought he had. RDS and la Presse certainly seemed to think so.

by MathMan on Jan 10, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve said that a few times. If anything he plays a game whose impact is somewhere between that of a playmaking center and a puckmoving defenseman. Going on wing where you have less of an impact on the transition game might neuter him entirely.

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by Stephan Cooper on Jan 10, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

In my opinion he already plays like a winger, he almost always plays the perimeter and is rarely moved the puck in the middle of the ice. His best plays usually come from his breaking into the left wing side and making a swift pass across the middle of the ice. It’s also a big reason why he isn’t a liability he never goes into high risk areas to make the big plays.

As for not playing him as the #1 centre…what was his excuse while playing with the rangers or during his first year here?

by Silvertip on Jan 10, 2012 6:13 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Don’t confuse position on the ice with what his responsibility is. Saying a guy rarely plays in the middle doesn’t mean he isn’t a center. How often have you ever heard of a center playing in front of the net on a PP?

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by Andrew Berkshire on Jan 10, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

There is a big difference between being in front of the net on the PP and moving down the middle during a rush. How many times have you seen Gomez crowd the left side when there was already someone there causing one D-man to easily be able to neutralize a two or three man rush because Gomez bunched? And what does he do? Dumps the puck behind the D and goes around him or dishes a pass across the ice to the opposite side. Now, I can see a winger playing the game up the boards, but a center who is supposedly a puck mover? The guy makes bad plays and limits offensive opportunities.

Gomez plays his best game when he splits the D and uses his passes to create plays which limit the effectiveness of the D men in front of him. You make the D react to your presence, not the other way around. With Gomez’s hands, he can make the D hesitate and make the pass at the last second. You suck the defender out of position, and you’ve accomplished your mission. To be honest, I don’t care if Gomez doesn’t score another goal in the NHL, as long as he can setup big ones. But he is doing neither right now, and worst of all he is P-R-E-D-I-C-T-A-B-L-E everyone knows he cuts to the left and makes that pass, so the defenders are ready for it.

Its not a lack of talent, its a lack of willingness to change and to take responsibility. And you don’t put a guy like that as a center.

by Silvertip on Jan 11, 2012 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think those Canes made the playoffs though, did they?

As far as Markov goes, I don’t know how much we can bank on him. I’m fairly certain that a .500 January won’t be good enough, and even if Markov returns after the ASG, he’ll be conceded at least a half dozen games or more to get back in to rhythm. After being out for so long, even that may not be enoug time for him, so for that reason I’d forget about him. The margin for error is pretty much zilch at this point. If they don’t finish January by cutting down the gap by 3-4 pts, they’re going to be in tough as playoff teams begin to load up with trades.

by kyleroussel on Jan 10, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I was thinking 2009 Canes. I don’t know how much they can bank on him either, but Markov with a limp is better than Campoli, Weber, Diaz etc.

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by Chris Boyle on Jan 10, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Not so sure I agree with that. Markov has played very little in the last 3 seasons. In that time, with all the new players on D, – Diaz, Weber, Emelin, Campoli and even Subban- there will be a sort of learning curve there. Besides, his knee is spaghetti – chances are his career is over in 15 games.

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by JosephF on Jan 10, 2012 6:21 PM EST reply actions  

After watching the Blues game, can I change my answer to no f#@king chance?

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by Chris Boyle on Jan 10, 2012 9:15 PM EST reply actions  

There is still half a season left. This team is coming together. Balanced scoring, a hot Carey Price, an improved Emelin, Eller, Moen, Kostitsyn and the return of Markov will be in the Habs favour. Cunneyworth is doing a fine job. This team doesn’t give up, it never did.

by Ashok11 on Jan 11, 2012 12:29 AM EST reply actions  

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