Preseason Game 7: Lightning @ Canadiens 4-0 L (Really 6-0)
With the most complete roster the Canadiens had iced so far this year, there was hope to see a win tonight, especially with this being the last game at the Bell Centre for two full weeks. Fans however, left sorely disappointed.
After a first period where the Habs outplayed the Tampa Bay Lightning and dominated puck possession, they still came out behind 2-0 on a pair of goals by Steven Stamkos. Both goals were caused by major mental miscues. The first by Andrei Kostitsyn rimming the puck around the boards, out of reach of all his teammates, but too slow to exit the zone. The second by Desharnais, who for some unknown reason decided to screen Peter Budaj as Stamkos placed a perfect one timer into the top corner on the far side.
Scoring summary from NHL.com
The score sheet may say 4-0, but Vincent Lecavalier clearly scored on Peter Budaj as the puck trickled between his pads and into the net, but the officials blew the whistle first. Oddly enough even our good buddy and ex-Hab Tom Pyatt scored on Budaj tonight, but the officials didn't notice the puck go in the net in a goal mouth scramble.
One other note; no player has faked injuries as often as Dwayne Roloson since Claude Lemieux.
Three Stars: 1) Steven Stamkos 2) Martin St. Louis 3) Dwayne Roloson
The Good:
There's not much to mention here. The team looked good in the first in spite of the deficit, but from then on the game was an ugly affair. Tampa Bay dominated the last 40 minutes at even strength to an embarrassing degree.
Josh Gorges took an awkward looking fall after a questionable check by Ryan Shannon, but he didn't miss a shift. It looked like he hurt his surgically repaired knee, but Gorges is clearly back to being an iron man. He was also the Habs' best player tonight, by a very wide margin.
Alexei Yemelin hasn't been too physical in the preseason so far, but as a few astute observers on twitter believe this is by design. Yemelin is still getting used to the North American ice surface, and he's focusing on positioning right now, and it shows. He's clearly a lot better in his own zone than Diaz, who goes for flash instead of stability. When Yemelin becomes comfortable on the NHL ice surface, the big hits will come.
The line of Mike Cammalleri - Tomas Plekanec - Erik Cole had periods of total domination. They're showing signs of what they can be for the Habs, a high scoring top line. Nothing went in tonight, but it will.
Gomez is still skating miles every game, and actually driving the net on occasion. He won several puck battles against players much bigger than himself.
The Bad:
Peter Budaj followed up his terrible outing in Halifax with another stinker tonight. His rebound control at present is a bad joke, and he just doesn't look comfortable in the crease. Luckily he won't need to play very often, and Pierre Groulx can work with him constantly while Price plays.
David Desharnais had a couple good moments, but for the most part was lost in his own zone and looked like his groin injury was still hurting him a little bit.
Brendan Gallagher had a bit of trouble getting anything going tonight against a stronger lineup. Although considering how much his line with Desharnais and Kostitsyn was struggling I don't think it hurts his chances much for starting the year with Montreal.
Max Pacioretty struggled tonight. He got very frustrated after missing a few golden chances and looked like it really bothered him.
Best not to dwell too much on this one, the Habs will be facing off against the Lightning again on Saturday in their final preseason game. Hey guys, watch out for that Stamkos guy, I hear he's good.
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Not a pretty night for Gallagher, Desharnais, and Kostitsyn. Since the NHL’s pre-season stat tracking sucks you can’t see ice-time charts but it looks like they were playing against Stamkos and St. Louis. getting their heads handed to them. I caught the third period and at that point they weren’t out against Tampa’s first line, except for the shift where Subban took the penalty. That trio being unable to handle a top-line isn’t all that surprising.
I generally liked what I saw from the first two lines though. To my eyes, Gomez continues to be effective on the cycle which means he hasn’t slipped in that department from last season.
Overall, if it were a real game I would come away disappointed. Trailing for most of the game and being out-shot isn’t good enough.
Well we do have data: http://www.cs.unb.ca/~mwf/habs/icetime07.html
Turns out Pleky was getting matched up with Stamkos, and Stamkos and Connolly managed to squeeze two goals in 1:29 of matchup time and one in whatever time AK-DD-Gionta played against them (and that line played 1:50 O_o).
Guess it wasn’t a test. And guess it really goes to show DD isn’t ready for top-6 duty, at least not without better linemates (ditto Gallagher, really).
We shouldn’t be totally surprised by that I guess.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Sep 29, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think anyone here will be, but people watching certain hockey shows religiously would be shocked, SHOCKED by the notion DD isn’t the Habs’ second-best centre.
Hahaha you’re right. It was hilarious tonight on HIO, people flipped out of me when I said the Habs actually played well in the 1st. It’s amazing how many people watch the scoreboard instead of the game.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Sep 29, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree and it’s a personal pet peeve of mine. You can’t ever have done anything good if you lose 4-0. Sometimes, if you lose the game 4-0, you can’t even have been any good at any point.
Hockey just does not work that way. Picture the exact same game, have Budaj make an extra save or two, fine-tune those couple posts a bit towards the net, and suddenly the narrative is very different.
Exactly. If even one of those chances goes in during the 1st period, it’s a totally different game.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Sep 30, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree with everything you said there.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Sep 29, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Out Work
not a surprise, Tampa is again the up and coming Team in the east and the Canadians cant compete I’m not surprised, ready to see this happen all year with Montreal.
by Bruin for a win on Sep 30, 2011 12:12 AM EDT reply actions
Uh huh…
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by Andrew Berkshire on Sep 30, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Let’s see, a team that was pretty much what will be seen in Tampa against a team with still a lot of prospects/AHLers and their backup goalie.
What were you expecting?
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by Kevin van Steendelaar on Sep 30, 2011 7:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Better Talent
The bolts will be a better team this year. I don’t know if the point total will indicate a pick up in points. Hard to improve on 103 for a final total. The ‘d’ and goalie starting the season is better than last year. Remember they had Smith and Tweeter (ellis) who would make Budja look like the second coming of Patrick Roy. This year we start with Roli and he is in great physical / mental condition to start the year. Brewer did not come until the trade deadline and it’s no coincedence that the addition of Roli and Brewer took the GA from 3.29 to 2.6×.
I see a couple comments on flopping here regarding the bolts, you must be kidding. Your boys are the queen of flop only bested by the Carolina Swans who are the King of the mountain for that distinction.
Will be watching the game again tonight hope it’s a good one. Special eye on Connoly who is making it very tough for the coach to send him back to Juniors. Tough call as he has the instinct, scoring mentality and placement on the ice. The question is when the checks start flying does he have the strenght, endurance and ice awareness to avoid the bad cheap shot hits from the likes of the neil’s and cooks still in the game.
Good luck tonight, hope we have price in net to test our offensive team. He is an excellent goalie who still has lot’s of upside in his skills.
Go Bolts
Gbolt, no one called the Lightning a bunch of floppers. I called Roloson the a diver. If you don’t believe that to be true I have some swamp land in Florida I’d like to sell you. The guy is as synonymous with diving and faking injuries is Hasek was back in the day.
On the Bolts themselves, they’re bound to be a more balanced team this year with Hedman continuing to improve and Brewer anchoring that unit, but I don’t think Tampa has near as much offensive depth as last season. Connolly as a rookie has had a good preseason, but there’s just no way he can replace the hard minutes play of Gagne, and losing Bergenheim hurts the bottom 6 scoring.
Luckily you have a great coach along with several players who should have bounce back years (Malone, Lecavalier) so Tampa will be fine. I wouldn’t expect they would be much better though.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Oct 1, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Even if they’re not much better, having at least average goaltending will allow Tampa (an excellent puck possession club that was hamstrung by terrible goaltending) to match or exceed their results from last year.
Tampa is interesting because they, like Montreal, vastly improved their puck possession metrics last season.
I wonder if their goaltending will actually be that much improved though. Certainly in the first half, but Roloson is going to start breaking down come January.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Oct 1, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Their goaltending in the early part of the season was horrid. If Roloson plays well for half the season and then they replace him with an AHLer, they probably improve.
Hahaha poor Dan Ellis and Mike Smith. Phoenix is screwed.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Oct 2, 2011 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Too many of the Habs shots...
were long range & un-screened. Price looks to be in for a heavy workload, Budaj should only start against the Canadian Tire Midgets from Sudbury.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Sep 30, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m amazed at all the people that want to bury Budaj already, like Auld was an elite backup who will be sorely missed. Budaj is a backup. Capable. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Budaj has some obvious warts, but no more obvious than Auld’s were. I honestly don’t get the revisionist history of Auld being amazing. He had a couple good games that elevated his stats among a bunch of really poor games. Not to mention he only had 1 start against a good team I believe (NYR). Budaj isn’t going to play Tampa or Boston during the year, people need to calm the F down.
Not to mention he’ll have at least 5-8 games at the beginning of the year to work with Groulx while Price plays.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Sep 30, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Auld is a 1990’s style goalie. He is stiff, relies on his size to take up the net and has mediocre reflexes. He has weak lateral movement. I thought he was horrific last season.
Budaj is smaller, but more athletic and has much better movement. I think he tends to do to much and puts himself out of position sometimes. He is essentially a starter on a bad team or a average backup. Auld will be lucky to remain in the league this season.
Somehow Auld always survives. No idea how.
Budaj is definitely more talented, and I think that’s why he got a 2 year contract. Groulx obviously feels he can turn Budaj’s game around to make him very worthwhile. His game right now is a mental mess though.
I’ve spoken a bit with Justin Goldman at The Goalie Guild, he scouts in Colorado so he’s seen a lot of Budaj. Basically he’s got all the tools and works hard but lacks the focus. He keeps his arms too low, and his glove half closed at times, and rebounds are trouble.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Sep 30, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought there was a lot of good coming from the first 2 periods. I was a little disappointed that they didn’t try to fake some shots. TB’s goalie’s angles were good, and he flashed the leather well, but there wasn’t a great deal of creativity in their shots.
Akos made some nice Hits, too bad it appeared to be when he got angry.. he maybe should get angry more and bring that piece of him out. Most notable when playing with DD and Gallagher.
As much as has been made about fans and past deals (ala comments about Ribeiro), to dismiss a good start to an NHL career by saying DD isn’t a second line center, I kinda think you guys are doing the same thing. (Yes stasmasters are gonna kill me) But, the kid is starting his second NHL season… he’s not going to be Pleks or Gomer… though, he’s solid when the games start. If Gomez doesn’t start off hot, say first 12-16 games, I’d be pushing for DD to take his place…
by Cruisin4aBruisin on Sep 30, 2011 1:39 PM EDT reply actions
DD just isn’t capable of handling that opposition. You have to remember that Desharnais is already 25. It’s extremely rare for a player that age to progress much further than he’s already developed. Saying he’s not a 2nd line center isn’t a knock on him, he’s still a good player, but he just isn’t as effective in that position as he could be on a lower line.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Sep 30, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Gallagher, Bournival sent back to junior. That’s good. I like where they’re at, but they’re not NHL quality yet.
I think Palushaj will get one last shot in the final preseason game, he’s competing with Weber and Blunden by the looks of things. Hopefully Eller is ready to go next week. If he’s in, Engqvist is out.
Yemelin vs. Diaz: it seems like for Yemelin to make the top 6 they have to put Spacek on the right side again. That’d bump Diaz out, as he’s currently #3 on the depth chart for right side D behind Subban and Gorges. With Campoli in the fold, it seems logical to move Spacek to the right side again, as when Markov returns that’s likely what would happen anyways.
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It’s clear that Martin likes Diaz, but I’m not seeing what a lot of others are. I think Yemelin looks much more solid, he’s just not being flashy until he’s comfortable playing. Diaz makes a bad read for every good one, and looks either flashy and dynamic or totally lost. I still think Weber is better than Diaz.
With the camp he’s had, I can’t imagine Engqvist making the team. Palushaj has gotten better with time, but Engqvist is still totally invisible.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Sep 30, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I noted that Basu and Engels were tweeting that Cunneyworth’s presence in Montreal could be why Engqvist is sticking around longer.
Maybe Martin figures RC can get more out of him long term.
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by Kevin van Steendelaar on Sep 30, 2011 7:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Could very well be. We know that Cunnyworth has been a big fan of Engqvist. I sure would like to see some noticeable play from him though.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Sep 30, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I haven't seen a petition..
to bring Auld back yet. If Auld was mediocre that makes Budaj acceptable?
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