Video: Aaron Rome lays out Nathan Horton
by Kevin van Steendelaar on Jun 6, 2011 9:24 PM EDT
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The Vancouver Canucks Aaron Rome clocks the Boston Bruins' Nathan Horton, on a clearly late hit. Rome received a 5 minute interference major, and a game misconduct.
Mathieu Darche (via Twitter) "That was a terrible hit! Very late and dangerous. Hope Horton is ok."
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Like I said in the other thread, karma is a bitch.
I can’t wait for the following things to be said.
1. He didn’t intend to hurt him that bad.
2. Rome is not that type of player
3. It’s a hockey play and if Horton’s head didn’t hit the ice, we wouldn’t even be talking about this.
How does it feel Boston? Not so good, eh?
One of the guyson HNIC even says that Horton should have been looking for the hit.
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by Kevin van Steendelaar on Jun 6, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
If the hit weren't late,
then he would have been looking.
He didn’t have the puck, he owned the ice he was on.
Don’t forget “Rome has a clean record”. Whether it’s true or not it will be said.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 6, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
That hit looks like Stevens on Kariya to me. Dirty then, Dirty now.
You will not find any sympathy from me after the display the media and Bruin fans put on defending Chara.
Very similar, although hopefully the advance in medical handling of concussions will prevent Horton from returning so he doesn’t kill himself.
And I agree, no sympathy.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 6, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, but look how fast they rushed back Bergeron. Minor or not I highly doubt he’s 100% and with his history, if it was him instead of Horton tonight his career would be over.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 6, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
True, I forgot about Bergeron.
The CBC hyperbole machine is in fine form tonight. Shawn Thornton swung this game. SIgh.
I was just going to comment on that. But when has Healy ever said anything worthwhile?
I’d be interested to see the scoring chances this game, because aside from the score it seems like Vancouver has massively outplayed Boston and been burned on rushes and bad luck tips.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 6, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed on that point. In fact with every goal the Bruins scored in the 3rd, I think it became more likely they wouldn’t win the series. Just my thoughts.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 6, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I know Mathman keeps saying they are playing on borrowed time and watching them play I see a lot of fortunate events ending up in the other teams net.
They beat Montreal based on this type of fortune. I think they may have used it up all in one game tonight.
Montreal blasted Philly 5-1 in Game 3 last season and it didn’t impact the series in any way. This will be overblown and the Bruins will get stories written about them with terms like “messages”, “determination”, “grit” etc.
Yep. As usual, entirely too much is made of a blowout.
In reality, they are the most meaningless games they are. 8-1 is a fluke game. It means exactly nothing for the future of the series except that the Bruins won one. It doesn’t mean the Canucks are destabilized, that the Bruins have suddenly become competitive with them, or anything of the sort.
It’s ironic that they get billing as "statement games" because typically the winner of an 8-1 game isn’t actually dominant.
Actually it probably means one thing: Luongo won’t be winning the Conn Smythe.
If Vancouver wins Kesler gets the Conn Smythe.
If Boston wins Thomas get it.
All the cliches will be brought out over the next 36 hours. Terms like “statement game” will appear and doubt will surface about Luongo, etc.
It’s funny, because personally I think the biggest event that came out of this game is that the Bruins have to play the rest of the series without Horton. I think the 8 goals will remove the focus from that fact. They will talk about Rome, they will talk about suspension, but will anybody analyze the impact of them losing their leading scorer?
I’m debating if I shouldn’t argue that Thomas should win the Conn Smythe regardless of who wins. Without superhuman goaltending the Bruins don’t get a sniff of the SCF.
Horton isn’t exactly a world-beater, but Boston is a pretty shallow club so missing one of their few decent wingers will hurt. That said, they were already pretty badly overmatched. Either they get the good fortune they need to overcome that or they don’t.
I don’t think Thomas has been superhuman anymore than Kesler has been for the Canucks.
Neither would be where they are if you removed them. If the Canucks had no clear cut Conn Smythe candidate, then maybe he could steal it on a losing team, but Kesler would win it easy if the Canucks win (barring Thomas winning 2 more 1-0 games and playing an outstanding Game 7).
The numbers may say Thomas is amazing, but I don’t understand how he doesn’t get burnt more often like he did on the Burrows goal in OT or when the Habs buried two shots into Chara’s shinpads while he was on his nightly stroll in the corner.
He has great reflexes, but he loses the puck more than any goaltender I have ever seen and loses the crease more than any goalie not born before 1980.
The Bruins announced Horton has a severe concussion and will not return for the series.
Which prevents Horton from being rushed back, but at the same time, let’s all wish him a swift recovery and hope he’ll be tweeting from movie theaters soon!
I don't think the Chara hit was any better,
but had Habs fans not caused the ruckus they did, we wouldn’t have acted the way we did. Calling 911? Out of control. Protesting? Insane.
We all hope you enjoy the last 4 games without one of your top scorers while Vancouver gets penalized a marginal player.
thank you,
I will.
Enjoy the golf course.
by phonymahoney on Jun 7, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
haha, so much for that, huh?
For Horton!
by phonymahoney on Jun 16, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Truly, forgive me beachguy113 because you know I like you, if I balk when a Bruins fan brings up the word class. Correct me if I’m wrong, but 2 days after Pacioretty was hit he was either still in the hospital or just checking out, meanwhile Nathan Horton is watching hockey on TV and at the arena. Yet a veteran “classy” leader of your team says our medical staff was exaggerating the injury to get a suspension. Funny that both concussions were described as “severe”, but one player was hurt a lot worse, and one player got justice for his injury, and they weren’t the same player.
The Canucks are one of the most classless teams in the NHL, yet I don’t hear anyone saying Horton was faking or that the Bruins medical staff exaggerated his injuries to get a severe suspension. That should tell you a lot about the Boston Bruins organization, and it’s not good. I didn’t hear anyone from the Canucks blaming Horton for getting hurt either, like Chara blamed Pacioretty.
No, the Bruins and their fans really can’t talk about class.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 9, 2011 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I actually need to look it up, but the fact that Horton raised his arms like that is some sort of syndrome that comes from a bruising of the brain stem. They mentioned it on talk (not sports) radio the other day. Some doctor or medic called up about it.
Being able to tack on an actual condition or symptoms no doubt helps get some extra “points” if you’re looking for punitive damage.
An actual condition, like a fractured C4 vertebrae?
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 9, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
What was the local talk about these rumors that Max might have been able to come back for Round 1?
Rumor mill, I know, but no way that’s even mentioned with a broken neck I’d figure.
Once again, medical masters abound.
No mention of Max coming back for round 1 was made before the Chara suspension so that’s a red herring.
However, what is your point? Are you saying he didn’t have a broken neck?
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 10, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
No mention of Max coming back for round 1 was made before the Chara suspension
So after there was no suspension there was?
From rumour mongers maybe. What’s your point?
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 11, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
That as you say, there were rumor mongers.
I believe he had cracked vertebrae, have no reason not to.
Why anyone would even think he’d come back on the ice though, can’t comprehend. He’s not Lazerus, and neither is Horton.
Either way, I hope both are fine to start next season.
It was certainly hopeful ignorance for some people to think Pacioretty might have been good to come back for round one, however he was cleared for contact the same day the Habs were eliminated so round 2 wasn’t out of the question. Lazarus he’s not, but maybe Wolverine? ;-)
I think what people have to realize, and a TON of Bruins fans are guilty of this, is that concussions aren’t a set in stone healing time. Pacioretty and Horton were both diagnosed with a severe concussion, both seemed to have slight symptoms after a short time, or slight enough to watch movies and attend hockey games. Bergeron and Savard had similar diagnosis and were out of commission for months. Crosby was diagnosed with a minor concussion and he was cleared to work out just a week ago, half a year later. They’re a tricky injury that isn’t well understood by the general public.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 11, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
By the time next season starts, this stuff will calm down. Combination of many factors created that storm.
A combinaiton of initial reports of the diagnosis coming out of Montreal, local media, fan reaction, and then our media, then texts from the movie, then our sports people.
Add in the rivalry, and you got quite the stew going.
I don’t think it was a combination of anything. The announcement of Chara’s suspension was made before the announcement of Pacioretty’s injury by an hour.
All the BS about Pacioretty faking it or it being exaggerated was driven by two things and two things only, the Bruins players and Boston media. It was classless and inexcusable imo.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 12, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
And that’s all it is, when you get down to it. Opinion. You have yours, I have mine.
If you think you’re the white knights of honor, all the power to you.
Man, can 8 p.m. get here now please?
No one said anything about being white knights, but in this situation, all that is opinion in that statement is that it was inexcusable. The rest is blatant fact.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 13, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, then we’ll agree that the inexusability is opinion.
What a game! Luongo pulled once again! Haha!!
When the games are in Boston, it looks like the Bruins are playing against an AHL team. I don’t get how Vancouver is so much different at home. Bruins have been consistent all series.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 14, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
The fact that you say things like karma is a bitch is absoluelty horrifying. Not one Boston fan that I know of said they were glad to see paciorretty get hurt. That comment just demonstrates a complete disregard for the game of hockey. I even stated that I thought Chara would get suspended for the aforementjoned incident. Your view and lead line on this is disgusting.
Really? There were tons on twitter who said he deserved it, especially during the playoffs. Always with the “he hit Eaton” as an excuse.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 8, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
So what you guys are saying that from now on whenever anyone gets hurt because some fans say they deserve it you say the teamates of the offending player deserves to get hurt? Impressive amount humanity demonstrated on this site here. You stay classy EOTP
I don’t think anyone said that. If anything people are saying it’s karma because Horton plays a style where he’s constantly hitting people from behind, so what goes around comes around. That and the Bruins have been injuring players all year while staying relatively healthy, so what goes around comes around in that respect as well. What you’re doing is trying to cloud what’s being said into something un-classy when at no point in the original comment did Chris say “Horton deserves it, haha”. He said karma is a bitch, aka he’s dished it out and now he’s taken it, and then he asked how it feels.
I’m not a mind reader, but I’m guessing he’s saying how does it feel because Boston fans chastised Habs fans for months because your team captain broke one of our players necks and we were upset about it. How ridiculous, right? Having an emotional response to a scary situation that in all likelihood is the biggest reason the Bruins made it out of the first round.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 9, 2011 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions
karma is a bitch, huh?
How classy of you.
Not once have I wished for any of your Montreal Diving Team to be injured. Not. One. Time. In fact, most of us over @ SCoC and DOY expected a suspension for Chara and expressed well-wishes for Pacioretty. You guys need to get over it. Shit happens. Poor ‘Patches’ will be back with the team in October, tweeting from the movies and have a grand ol’ time. It’s all good. :)
by phonymahoney on Jun 7, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
P.S.
How’s the 9th hole look? And do you know how deep the water hazard is? I’m sure you already dove in…
by phonymahoney on Jun 7, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
According to SCOC, not being a Boston fan is trolling, and saying you hope Bergeron is ok after he gets a concussion is ban-worthy. So I wouldn’t come here complaining about the conduct on this board.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 8, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
If you believe that, you’re pretty naive. Fact is SCOC is a dick, although a small and petty one. He couldn’t handle a Hab fan being classy so he had to turn it into a language debate. I called it as it was and he cried like a bitch, hiding behind semantics.
And if his ego is so high that he can’t handle being called a dick when he’s trolling, that’s just sad. Last I checked he’s not banned from this site even though he’s called Robert “a delusional retard”. Dishes but can’t take it, like Marchand.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 8, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, it’s like I’m hearing what 20 people talk about you.
And I’m not stating an opinion on that, as it’s not mine, just funny to see the exact reversal of thought.
That’s odd because I don’t think I’ve ever banned anyone, maybe I banned the guy who said all Habs fans were Nazi’s but I think that was Robert.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 9, 2011 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions
He told me that he was a Bruins fan from Vancouver.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 9, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
All Boston fans should, because if he was a useless plug I wouldn’t hate him.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 9, 2011 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Why did Sedin hold his face like he got highsticked? Does Vancouver EVER stop embellishing? Jesus.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 9, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Undoubtedly a late and dirty hit. Rome should be gone for the playoffs and it’s not even a hard decision.
However I can’t say I feel bad for the Bruins, or even Horton. You reap what you sow in this world, and Horton is a classless retard.
As Pierre Lebrun noted: ‘From NHL GM via text: ``Definite suspension for me _ Horton never had puck, totally defenseless.’‘’ I’m pretty sure Pacioretty didn’t have the puck either, so Mike Murphy has no grounds to suspend Rome.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 6, 2011 9:35 PM EDT reply actions
No, I really don’t. I’m just stating that there is none so when there’s a suspension we can all laugh at the hypocrisy.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 6, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
So by your account then where you reap what you sew then yes I guess by YOUR logic Pacioretty deserved to get hurt after his hit on Eaton…goes both ways guys
One bad hit =/= being a dirty player. Pacioretty is rambunctious and should have been suspended for the Eaton hit, Horton is classless and tries to goon it up whenever a game is decided, and he’s constantly trying to hurt players. False equivalency.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 9, 2011 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions
This is awesome
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 7, 2011 1:05 AM EDT reply actions
too nasty
My hope is that the officials and players can find a way to tone down the vicious stuff that’s going on. its coming from both teams and IMO getting out of hand.
I agree with Mathman blow out wins like this don’t necessarily carry over. Two potential positives for the Bruins, Luongo is a very streaky goalie so perhaps he struggles a bit going forward and I thought that the Bruins got the Canucks defence running around a bit. Perhaps the B’s can build off of that.
Just a few quick observations; The Bruins should just forget Lapierre, he isn’t a good enough hockey player to do any harm. Chis Higgins had a very soft game. And as much as Canadiens fans dislike him, you have to admit that was a pretty slick goal from Marchand.
I don’t think anyone denies Marchand’s talent, he’s just an insufferable prick and everyone hates him.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 7, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
And Lapierre too.
Thing is, Lapierre is the only one I won’t mind not ever being on my team. Marchand, aside from Bergeron, Krejci and Chara, is the player I’d pluck from the Bruins if I could. Young, fearless, can play both side of the puck in all situations. Love him. Wouldn’t touch Lucic, tough. A true thug, but with the pricetag and the style of play, I doub’t he’ll remain effective and he is not great shakes defensively.
As for Marchand being a prick, this is the NHL we are talking about. I’m more annoyed with big oafs who make angry faces such as Horton.
There's a difference between being an agitator and an insufferable prick.
Subban annoys people on the ice, admits it off the ice and is genuinely an awesome person. Marchand dives and cheapshots all over the place, then accuses everyone else on the opponent of doing the same while pretending he’s a paragon of virtue. He’s also a complete asshole off the ice. Massive difference between those two players, not even comparable.
And fyi, despite Bruins fans pretending otherwise, Subban actually puts up his fists when need be, while Marchand pretends to and then runs to the bench or behind Chara.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 8, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
That was actually pretty hilarious.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 9, 2011 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Haxk Colin Campbell..
will twist himself in knots to explain why he is suspending Rome. When asked how it differs from Chara walking Scot-free Campbell will bable incoherently & the CBC/TSN news hounds will go “Oh OK”
Nothing Is Fool proof if you have the right fools.
Campbell is done. This is Mike Murphy’s call, as is the whole Finals. Which wouldn’t have been the case if it wasn’t for Tyler Dellow, I persume, but still.
After that, its on Shanahan to clean up the Campbell era’s messes.
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The inconsistency continues.
“Two factors were considered in reaching this decision,” said NHL Senior Vice President of Hockey Operations Mike Murphy. “The hit by Rome was clearly beyond what is acceptable in terms of how late it was delivered after Horton had released the puck and it caused a significant injury.”
LATE AND SIGNIFICANT INJURY! Hmmmmmm.
That was from the news release. There was no media scrum.
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That proves once again what a joke this league is. If 4 games for Rome is the correct decision, Chara should have gotten at least 10. I also have to laugh about that late hit comment. There have been probably hundreds hits in the playoff as late as this one but normally no one seems to care about that.
Considering Rome got 4 games in the SCF, and the Chara hit on Pacioretty had far more plausible intent and the hit itself was later, I would say an argument could easily be made that Chara should have got the rest of the season and the 1st round of the playoffs, or 30+ regular season games.
4 games in the SCF in the third game AFTER a game misconduct, that’s an unprecedented suspension.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 7, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you think Burrows should have gone for one game?
Would it have ended all this garbage right then and there?
Did Savard get a game when he bit a guy? I don’t remember. If he did, then Burrows should have as well. If he didn’t, then the NHL was right to not suspend him. It might have ended the taunting, but it wouldn’t have stopped Rome from stepping up on Horton.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Jun 8, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
And no reference to the headshot rule, since technically it didn’t break that one, much like Chara’s didn’t, either.
What a joke.
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Many players in the NHL feel that Chara should have been suspended for ramming MaxPac’s head into the turn buckle. Many won’t speak out publiclly on the bias decisions. The fact is, Chara got away with a vicious/late hit and Rome didn’t. The league office is a f***king joke and I wonder how many NHL players think the same.
Rome Might Appeal
Looking at it in a vacuum, I think it’s ridiculous. Four games for a late hit with excessive force causing a serious injury seems fine to me for a guy who, as far as I know, hasn’t performed any other terrible actions.
On the other hand, you look at the reasoning for the Chara non-suspension and the reasoning for the Rome suspension, or the single game Pronger got for Anaheim in the finals and it makes sense that he would appeal.
With Bettman as the one who makes the decision on appeals I doubt anything changes except for more noise about the Wheel of Justice.
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