Habs First Quarter Review
This piece is a collaboration between Chris Boyle and myself. What we aim to do with this piece is create a comprehensive template to evaluate the Montreal Canadiens, specifically each player, each quarter of the season. This first entry will be taking in data from the first 22 games. Only players who have played 10 or more games up to that point will be included. We will post a similar breakdown for each quarter of the season.
Before we get into it, let's break down the specific stats we'll be using to evaluate the players. The statistics I explained in this piece on November 14th will be used on an individual level instead of team level and while we will display PDO, we will also break it down into on ice shooting percentage and on ice save percentage. Shots, Fenwick, Corsi and PDO will be expressed in the same style as in that piece. As opposed to that piece, we'll be using those statistics for while the game is within one goal either way instead of just tied, or put another way, while the score is "close". Doing this expands our sample size by a large margin and allows for a more conclusive look at each player.
We will also be including scoring chance data from Olivier Bouchard's En Attendant Les Nordiques. For scoring chances we will be displaying scoring chances for and against the team at even strength while each player is on the ice. This will show how Fenwick, Corsi and shots correlate to scoring chances, and how effective the team is while each player is on the ice. Olivier counts scoring chances as shots that hit or miss the net within the "home plate" area:
A fairly new statistic (to fans but certainly not coaches) we'll be including here is Chris Boucher's risk/reward rating. What Chris does is watch every single game, and break down each and every play that occurs within the game. Boucher refers to these plays as events. Specifically he looks at the following plays;
successful or unsuccessful passes, successfully or unsuccessfully beating an opponent 1-on-1 (deke), successful or unsuccessful shot-attempts (puck on net), successful or unsuccessful dump-ins, successful or unsuccessful puck-battles, successful or unsuccessful loose-puck recoveries, successful or unsuccessful blocked passes, successful or unsuccessful blocked shots, successful or unsuccessful stick-checks.
What this allows Boucher to do is create a metric for how successful each player is at their specific job. For example, if a player has a risk/reward of 1.5 then that player makes 1.5 successful plays for every unsuccessful one. From reading Chris's site over the last several months I believe Jacques Martin uses a very similar metric when making personnel decisions. Usually ice time during games highly correlates to Boucher's risk reward ratings.
Finally, we'll be fiddling with the +/- statistic in order to get a figure that more accurately represents a player's performance. We'll be eliminating +/- data during empty net situations as well as short handed goals against. The reason for this is simple, neither of these situations tell us very much about player performance. Both situations exclusively punish the team's best players. Doing this allows us to focus solely on even strength play.
Why the extensive focus on even strength?
The main reason for this is that most of every game is played at even strength. Because of this, the teams that are most successful in this situation have the best chance at success over time. Look no further than last year's Stanley Cup champions, the hated Boston Bruins. They were incredible at even strength with a terrible powerplay and mediocre penalty kill. While special teams are important, they can be overcome with great even strength play.
Another reason is because due to how little time is played on special teams, 1/4 of the season is not a long enough time to get a solid sample size to critique the play in those areas. At least not conclusively.
Legend
| Shot on net based possession | Shots |
| Fenwick (on net and misses) based possession | Fenwick |
| Corsi (on net, missed and blocked (based possession) | Corsi |
| Shooting percentage while on the ice | On Ice Shooting% |
| Goaltender save percentage while on the ice | On Ice SV% |
| PDO (luck quotient; trends to mean of 1000 over time) | PDO |
| Scoring chances for team while on the ice at ES |
Scoring Chances For |
| Scoring chances against team while on the ice at ES |
Scoring Chances Against |
| +/- in ES, non-EN situations only | True +/- |
Note: Average goaltending during the first quarter for the Canadiens was a 92.4% save percentage, while average team shooting percentage was 7.4%. It's also important to note that players will be graded based on expectations, so while a 3rd liner could be rated higher than a 1st liner, it doesn't mean they played better.
All statistics used are gathered from timeonice.com, behindthenet.ca, NHL.com, enattendantlesnordiques.blogspot.com, and boucherscouting.com
CENTERS
Tomas Plekanec is Mr. Everything for the Habs and has been for years now. His possession numbers were incredible through the quarter mark. He produced at near a point per game over the first quarter and received average goaltending from Price over this time. His on ice shooting percentage was just over the team average, which is expected considering he's the team's best forward. What this tells us is that Plekanec was no only dominant over this period, but he also wasn't lucky or unlucky. He produced at a sustainable rate. Because Plekanec's line consistently carried the flow of play over the first quarter, he was still a +3 in our +/- metric despite average luck. As you can see, Plekanec's scoring chance count is positive, which means that while he is on the ice 54% of the game's total scoring chances are for the Canadiens. This is especially impressive considering Plekanec gets the hardest matchup assignments. Only Gionta has faced a higher quality of competition overall this season for Montreal. Plekanec has the highest risk/reward rating of all Montreal forwards this year, showing that no matter the competition he continually keeps a cool head and makes solid plays.
First Quarter Grade: 9/10
David Desharnais has had a dream job so far this season. Flanked by the team's two best and biggest wingers, often against tertiary assignments. This has changed recently with Desharnais earning more and more of Jacques Martin's trust, along with the inspired play of Cole and Pacioretty dragging him along. His overall possession numbers are solid, however his most startling stat is his shots on net percentage. This may be explained by Desharnais' uncanny passing ability combined with big skilled linemates. They are adept at getting into shooting position and he is great at getting them the puck. Desharnais produced more scoring chances than Plekanec in the first quarter, but was also on for nearly 20 more scoring chances against. This makes David a high risk, high reward type of player. Increased scoring chances against may be the reason Desharnais received a below average save percentage while on the ice. Just 52.2% of total scoring chances while Desharnais was on the ice were for Montreal. While Desharnais' strong passing helps him out, his overall risk/reward rating ranks him only 4th among Habs centers in the opening quarter of the season despite it being a solid 1.46.
First Quarter Grade: 6/10
Lars Eller, contrary to Desharnais, was given an incredibly tough job for this stage in his career over the first quarter. Fortunately he met this challenge head on and replied with solid possession. Eller also was the beneficiary of amazing goaltending over the first quarter (97% SVP). Of course that kind of goaltending can't last, and we're seeing some regression to the mean for Eller currently. Eller's possession paid dividends in both scoring chances and production. While Eller was on the ice, 56.9% of the scoring chances that occurred were in favour of Montreal. Eller clearly still needs to work on his shooting, as can be shown by his relatively poor conversion of possession to shots on net. A lot of his shot attempts are blocked or forced wide, but this is common with young players of Eller's talent level. Eller produced a better risk/reward rating than Desharnais over this time period in spite of playing with lesser lights and against similar to better competition. The future is bright with him, but we're not quite there yet.
First Quarter Grade: 7/10
Scott Gomez, forever maligned, is not even close to as bad as Habs fans would like to think. As you can see, his possession numbers are actually tops among Montreal's centers, and his on ice shooting percentage is at about average this year, which means production will start to add up assuming he can get healthy. The problem for Gomez so far has been a combination of injuries and horrid luck with goaltending while he's playing. An 85.3% save percentage would be what you'd expect if an ECHL goaltender was called up. It's bad luck that just can't last, yet in spite of it Gomez was only a -1 over this time, largely because of his incredibly strong possession. 55.7% of the scoring chances while Gomez were on the ice were in favour of the Habs, which coincides well with his strong 1.57 risk reward rating. Both metrics rank him 2nd among Canadiens centers which is where you would objectively expect him to be. One big problem with Gomez this year however has been his offensive zone passing. While he's been the team's strongest forward with defensive and neutral zones, he's been among the worst offensively. This may be a symptom of Gomez struggling with the pressure to produce after last season, but it is impossible to prove this conclusively.
First Quarter Grade: 7/10
Petteri Nokelainen is clearly the weakest player in terms of possession in the forward group, although he has been making some progress over time. Over the first quarter he didn't really produce any offense, although his respectable defensive play allowed his shot totals to be within the realm of respectability, even if they are below par. To be fair to Nokelainen however, he hasn't exactly been given great linemates over his time in Montreal. Michael Blunden for example, was a complete disaster. Still, Nokia's non-existent on ice shooting percentage is pretty unlucky. His on ice save percentage however is bound to regress, as like Eller, that number is simply not sustainable. Nokelainen is a pretty low event player, which is probably ideal for a 4th line center. Only 35% of the scoring chances that occur while Nokelainen is on the ice are in favour of the Habs. His risk/reward rating doesn't do him any favours either as he's barely above even. It's not ideal, but it is the 4th line. That said, when Gomez is healthy, since Desharnais has improved his faceoff numbers to above par, it may be worth it to scratch Nokelainen to see how the team survives with Plekanec - Gomez - Eller - Desharnais as centers for awhile instead of playing a better player on the wing.
First Quarter Grade: 3/10
LEFT WINGERS
Max Pacioretty didn't waste much time in proving he was still the same player after a broken vertebrae and concussion. Despite dealing with below average goaltending over the first quarter, Pacioretty put up solid numbers in every other area. Like Desharnais, he's been a high risk, high reward player so far this season with just 52.2% of the scoring chances while he's on turning out in his favour, but his excellent possession numbers limit scoring from opponents and while he's on the ice the team benefits from a slightly above average shooting percentage. Although he's benefited from the weaker competition his line has faced, Pacioretty recorded the second highest risk/reward rating among all Canadiens forwards. He's been an even strength beast so far this season with a production level that is sustainable and even likely to improve overall as Max hasn't had much powerplay success at all. What's most exciting about Max Pacioretty is that he's still growing into the player he's going to be. The 23 year old probably won't be in his prime for another 2 seasons.
First Quarter Grade: 9/10
Mike Cammalleri has had frustrating personal and team luck this season. Unfortunately he's also received below average goaltending to boot. It has been a criminally unfair season for Cammalleri who has actually played extremely well over the first quarter against solid competition. Every bit of uncontrollable variation has worked against him, from a skate cut to the thigh to constantly beating goalies but hitting posts. In spite of his reputation as a one-dimensional scorer, Cammalleri has consistently back checked all year and managed impressive possession and scoring chance numbers. While Cammalleri is on the ice 54.3% of the scoring chances are in the Habs favour. In spite of all this bad luck Cammalleri has managed to keep even in our true plus/minus metric, which is fairly impressive. Since Cammalleri was signed with the Canadiens he's managed to find success against top level competition on Plekanec's wing, but ideally with the emergence of Max Pacioretty, and when the team gets healthy he should be able to get a little shelter against secondary competition, which would really boost his numbers. To give an indication of just how solid Cammalleri has been; his risk/reward rating is at the same level as Josh Gorges and rank 3rd (tied with Gomez) among all Canadiens forwards.
First Quarter Grade: 8/10
Travis Moen isn't just completing at a higher level than expected in the goal scoring department, he's creating more than anyone would suspect of him. He's been Mr. Utility for the Habs since he was signed here, playing anywhere from the first to fourth lines and excelling. His possession is slightly below par when measuring blocked shots, but considering his first responsibility is to play a defensive role, having strong Fenwick and shot numbers may be the more important stats for Moen. It goes without saying that Moen is getting some great luck this season. Above average save percentage and shooting percentage give him a crazy PDO that will regress as the season goes on. Despite the luck making him look so great, the team is still marginally outchancing the competition while he's on the ice as 51.8% of the scoring chances are in his favour. Moen's solid play along with great luck has rocked him to a solid +5 over the first quarter, which is very impressive considering the results the Canadiens have had. That said however, Moen could definitely use some improvement in his decision making as his risk/reward rating is a team low. This likely has a lot to do with being put against secondary competition in order to shelter the Desharnais line, along with the fact that Moen is a far below average passer.
First Quarter Grade: 7/10
Mathieu Darche has clearly been the best of the fourth liners who've regularly played this season, but he still hasn't been very good. It has been an uphill climb for him at even strength as his teammates have been very poor, but his numbers are on the edge of respectability. Below par in both Corsi and Fenwick, but above par in shots on goal shows that Darche has been doing his job on the defensive side of the puck. Darche has been miraculously lucky as far as goaltender performance goes, but at the same time he's been just as unlucky on the offensive side. Despite his excellent luck on the goaltending side, his negative possession and scoring chance counts have lead to him being a solid minus in our true plus/minus figure. As maligned as Darche is for being overused, the difference between his possession and scoring chance numbers and frequent linemate Nokelainen are striking. While Darche is on the ice, 47.9% of the scoring chances that occur are in his favour. Not something to brag about, but not to be ashamed of either for a journeyman 4th liner. His risk/reward rating is also respectable for his position in the lineup, far better than Nokelainen's.
First Quarter Grade: 6/10
RIGHT WINGERS
Erik Cole may be the best UFA signing the Canadiens have made in recent memory. It's been a long time since the Canadiens have seen two power forwards on their team, and Cole's penchant for streaking down the right side and cutting to the middle is something to behold. Cole has experienced egregiously poor luck offensively over the first quarter, with a very poor team shooting percentage. He's battled through this however with elite possession numbers in all three categories while playing solid defensively. Cole has also benefited from some excellent goaltending luck, which actually brings his PDO to a sustainable level. A prototypical slow starter, Cole has built momentum that doesn't seem to be fading away. Certainly dropping down to play against lower competition has helped, but his production has stayed steady and even increased as his line with Pacioretty and Desharnais has been given more responsibility. While Cole is on the ice, a whopping 58.3% of the total scoring chances that occur go his way. That Cole's scoring chance numbers are so significantly better than his linemates say a lot about how well he's played this season, and how much he carries the success of that line. Surprisingly however, Cole's risk/reward rating is startlingly low. Only four Canadiens forwards have a lower rating.
First Quarter Grade: 9/10
Brian Gionta has clearly struggled. Outside of a three game stretch from games 19-22 in our sample area, where Gionta had 25 scoring chances for to 12 against, he's been a disaster at even strength this year. There has been speculation that he's been playing with a nagging injury from training camp, however the difficulty of his role has drastically increased this season as he's been playing with Plekanec against top competition instead of with Gomez. He's also been starting his shifts in the defensive zone much more often than usual. While Gionta was lucky over this period in his individual shooting percentage, but got below average save percentage from the Habs goalies and below average shooting percentage from his teammates. Even with the big boost towards the end of the first quarter, Gionta was barely above par in scoring chances as just 50.3% of the scoring chances while Gionta is on the ice are in favour of the Canadiens, which isn't encouraging. Despite being sub par in possession as well as getting some rotten luck, Gionta's talent and drive are still readily apparent. His risk/reward rating is still solid at 1.43 which shows that he's still battling and making good decisions with the puck. Being the captain and creeping up on 30 goals for Montreal the last 2 seasons, expectations are high for Gionta, so this kind of result is just not good enough for the team's most consistent winger.
First Quarter Grade: 4/10
Andrei Kostitsyn over the first quarter has greatly benefited from getting away from top competition on the Plekanec line, and has built excellent chemistry with Eller. His best performances have been when playing with Eller and Moen as for the first time in his career he's been the primary finisher on a line. This has resulted in a rapid burst of offense to start the year and startlingly excellent possession numbers. Kostitsyn's Corsi possession is good but not elite, but his Fenwick and shots on goal are spectacular. Unfortunately Kostitsyn has received far below average goaltending, but this is more than compensated by his excellent team shooting luck, giving him a very high PDO, similar to linemates Travis Moen and Lars Eller. Regression will happen but the first quarter was enjoyable to see regardless as Kostitsyn took advantage of limited ice time and made up for minimal powerplay time with high completion. Kostitsyn is was also in the upper echelon of the team in scoring chances as 58.1% of the scoring chances while he was on the ice were in favour of the Habs. In spite all of his good play, Kostitsyn barely stayed above even in true plus/minus due to poor goaltending. Shockingly, after looking dominant by every other metric, Kostitsyn recorded the second lowest risk/reward rating of all Canadiens players over the first quarter. The main reason for this was a team low pass completion percentage.
First Quarter Grade: 9/10
Aaron Palushaj wasn't expected to be a roster player for the Canadiens this season, and although he hasn't been able to ripple the twine or even manage an assist, his play has been better than many give him credit for. Being positive in overall possession is a clear indicator of Palushaj's skill level and potential, but it is also clear that he is not NHL ready. A clue there is how few of his total shots attempts get to the net. Stark drop offs between Corsi to Fenwick, then Fenwick to shots show that Palushaj has trouble getting his shots through, as do his linemates when playing with him. This problem will go away as Palushaj matures towards his potential as a top 9 forward. While he got no luck at all offensively, he benefited from great goaltending over the first quarter. As is expected, Palushaj was well below even on scoring chances as only 40% went his way. His risk/reward rating was also among the worst on the team
First Quarter Grade: 5/10
DEFENSEMEN
P.K. Subban, what more is there to say about this kid? Looking at Subban's stat line, considering that every game he lines up against the opposing team's top players, and starting most of his shifts in his own zone, no one should be anything less than amazed. At 22 years old P.K. is a legitimate #1 defenseman and a possession monster. Not only that, but his decision making is at an even higher level than the team's best defensive forward in Plekanec. Subban's risk/reward rating was the best on the entire team over this time. This is reflective of both his skill and decision making, as much as people like to attack him on "rookie moves". While Subban is on the ice, 54.6% of the scoring chances go Montreal's way. While Subban has had some poor personal shooting luck, especially over the first quarter, as well as some below average goaltending behind him, he's done everything right in the first quarter. One of the benefits of this review being so late is that we can see what happens when Subban is separated from another line. Now the entire effect isn't due to Subban, but as Olivier Bouchard noted, since Subban stopped playing with Plekanec's line in the second quarter, the top line's possession numbers have plummeted terribly. That Subban has a negative PDO, but a positive true plus/minus tells you how dominant he is. When Subban is on the ice, he controls the flow of play. That he's able to do this so successfully at 22 is a compliment to his own development and some solid teaching under the now fired Jacques Martin. Sophomore slump my ass.
First Quarter Grade: 10/10
Josh Gorges has come back with fire in his belly after surgery last year to repair his ACL. All summer fans of the negative Nancy variety were saying that Habs fans were overrating Josh Gorges and that he probably wouldn't be as good as we all thought in our heads. Well that turned out to be more than wrong, as Gorges played better hockey over the first quarter than he ever has in his career. An improved skating stride with his repaired knee has allowed him to take more risks and not suffer from them, and improved his puck battling capabilities by getting better positioning. No doubt that being paired with Subban is also a nice bump to his all around stats. That said, going into the year Gorges was expected to be a #3 defenseman, not a #2, and he's filled that role with aplomb. The highest true plus/minus on the team along with scoring chances being 56.3% in his favour show how valuable Gorges has been this season. The most encouraging thing about Gorges' performance is that his luck hasn't been good or bad. This is about what we can expect from him going forward. SIgn this man Mr. Gauthier, sign him for a long time.
First Quarter Grade: 9/10
Hal Gill has not had a great first quarter. Though his possession numbers are given a nice boost by starting the year paired with Subban, overall the signs aren't very good for him. Considering the number of passes and shots he blocks, along with stick checks, Gill's risk/reward rating is unacceptably low. That said, even strength was never Gill's strong suit. He is essentially a penalty killing specialist, and because of that this evaluation doesn't really show his true value. At even strength however, Gill has done little to show that he's a better option than other players. He has suffered from some poor luck in both team shooting percentage and save percentage while he's on the ice, but a team worst -6 in true plus/minus to go with the worst risk/reward among all defenders tells a story about Gill possibly being overused, or even that he's slipped into 7th defenseman territory. On the other hand, he's still managed to stay positive in possession and scoring chances as 52.2% of the chances that occur while he's on the ice are in favour of the Canadiens. What it may come down to is that Gill needs to play on the third pairing to be successful, which is tough considering the Markov injury.
First Quarter Grade: 6/10
Jaroslav Spacek is gone now so there's not much value in breaking him down as it doesn't matter going forward for the team. For the most part I already evaluated Spacek when he was traded for Tomas Kaberle, and the conclusion was that Kaberle was a superior player overall. Outside of some great goaltending behind him, nothing about Spacek's play this season was very impressive.
First Quarter Grade: 4/10
Alexei Emelin had a rough start in adjusting to North American ice. Not only did he struggle positionally, but unlike his peers he was given no margin for error. Multiple benchings and trips to the press box limited his playing time. To make it worse for Emelin, he had worse puck luck than any player on the Canadiens not named Gomez. Far below average goaltending behind him with below average shooters on the ice with him compounding his troubles. Emelin was also victimized severely on scoring chances as only 43.6% of the scoring chances while he was on the ice were in his favour. That all said however, Emelin's adjusting bore some fruit towards the end of the second quarter. He slowly inched towards positive possession, and his risk reward rating ended up just behind Gorges among defensemen. Another benefit of his adjustments were some devastating hits as opponents crossed the blueline into the Canadiens' zone. It's not hard to see top 4 capability in Emelin's future, but he's going to need to start playing on a regular basis.
First Quarter Grade: 6/10
Yannick Weber was thought to have earned a permanent spot on the roster after playing very well against Boston in the playoffs, but in many ways his versatility has worked against him. Weber started the year on defense, and played very well considering his age and position on the roster, but being jerked around between defense and right wing seems to have been Jacques Martin's major blunder this season. Weber's play hit a wall after his last shift to right wing despite a really promising start, despite playing with the dregs of the lineup. Weber's possession is below par, but considering he played a large portion of his time on defense with Spacek, his numbers look very good in comparison. Somehow, despite playing with lesser lights, Weber ended up being positive in scoring chances as 51.2% of the scoring chances while he was on went his way. Surprisingly enough, Weber recorded the second highest risk/reward rating of all Canadiens defensemen over the first quarter of the season. That combined with some solid luck and respectable possession probably should have kept him on the 3rd pairing every game this season instead of on right wing, but it didn't happen.
First Quarter Grade: 6/10
Raphael Diaz is an odd case. Solid possession numbers considering his rookie status, solid risk/reward numbers, about even as far as luck is concerned, but a golden ticket to staying in the lineup in spite of near identical stats to the other rookie defender the Habs have. Surely part of his advantage is that he's right handed, but in many ways Weber outplayed him over the first quarter and was always left behind him on the depth chart. Diaz really benefited from his coach's confidence after struggling mightily in the early going. His possession numbers early on were startlingly bad in comparison to the rest of the team, but really picked up as he learned the North American game. Diaz was also given free reign to play high risk, high reward hockey, something that is wholly confusing given Jacques Martin's disposition on that method of play. We know that Subban was forced to reign in his play during his rookie year, and he benefited from that advice. Because of Diaz's high risk play, he allowed just one less scoring chance against than Subban over the first quarter, despite playing against weaker opposition and far fewer minutes. While Diaz is on the ice, just 50.5% of the scoring chances are in his favour. Diaz is not a bad player though, he's just given too long of a leash. His possession and risk/reward numbers vindicate him as an NHL player, one that could be very good a season from now.
First Quarter Grade: 6/10
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This is painful to read in contrast to what we have just watched for 4 games. It almost seems like you are reviewing an entirely different season.
The cut-off point is two games short of the Carolina game when Gomez went down. By Olivier’s figures, the Habs went from 52.6% score-tied Fenwick to that point to 39.8% since then, which is, as Roke so accurately put it, apocalyptic.
Basically, after the quarter-pole mark, the Habs have been as bad as the worst club since the lockout, and the worst club in the league, possession-wise. They managed to more or less follow on chances until Cunneyworth started screwing things up.
This perhaps what makes me saddest about the whole thing. It was such a promising season that got completely derailed.
Actually, re-reading the introduction: 22 games is exactly the cut-off point where Gomez left the team.
Cunneyworth has been a disaster, but my hope resides in him going into survival mode like Gainey did in 2006. One of the things that got Julien fired was benching Theodore. Gainey immediately re-instated Theo over Huet as the starter.
It didn’t take long for Gainey to realize that Huet was playing much better and he altered his game plan. It’s a long shot hope I know, but it’s all I have right now.
What would he do differently if he went into “survival mode”? Stop stupid scratches, bench the fourth line, take Blunden out of the lineup instead of Subban?
Everything the guy tells us says he’s not suited for the job. He’s going on about a “blue collar work ethic” now as if that would fix anything. If he’s going to play the grinders even more…
Don’t both of these goalies play on different teams now and are no longer Hab assets? Just askin………Sorry as a form of humour my sarcasm is being wasted on here like the habs efforts on ice of late.
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by Canadian Jet on Dec 24, 2011 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
I didn’t realize it had become quite so bad. That is unbelievably depressing.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Dec 24, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Yep. These quarter-pole evaluations are just depressing. Everything has changed since this point… and for the worse.
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by Bruce Peter on Dec 23, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
"It almost seems like you are reviewing an entirely different season."
Or an entirely different team.
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by Kevin van Steendelaar on Dec 23, 2011 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
I honestly can’t believe what has happened in just one week to this team. This is seriously the most shocking change of direction I’ve seen out of the Habs since the Roy trade.
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I agree. I can’t recall feeling this disconnected from the team in my life.
I want them to play better, but I am watching the games with shock and horror. I can’t believe what I am seeing. It was almost better when I didn’t understand what the hell was going on.
by Chris Boyle on Dec 23, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
So this would be better for you if you were Randy Cunneyworth?
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by Bruce Peter on Dec 23, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
LOL. I struggle to kill the coach because we have been killing fans for blaming the coach, but his moves are absolutely bizarre.
I try to equate it to coaching 7 year olds and watching the other teams elite players play 60% of the game and score at will and have me tell the coaching staff that we need to play the worst player on the team slightly less than the best one to keep the best player fresh. It is absolutely asinine to roll 4 lines.
There is a reason why you pay Plekanec $5M+ and Blunden $500K and it isn’t to keep Plekanec fresh.
by Chris Boyle on Dec 23, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
What’s shocking to me is that Cunneyworth can spend all the time he has spent in various coaching positions, including 30+ games under Martin, and not understand what’s going on.
In all honesty, I think hockey is like baseball in the 1990s. I have talked to analytics guys who were shocked at the MIT Sloan convention how many GMs were close minded to microstats.
I don’t want to be arrogant or suggest that a guy who has played hockey/coached for 30+ years is totally clueless, but I am not sure that he is using all the tools at his disposal.
by Chris Boyle on Dec 23, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
What’s more discouraging is that Gauthier, a guy who is an outsider amongst GM’s, seems to be ignoring those tools as well. Or who knows, maybe this was him simply pulling the plug on the year for a high draft pick, and he’ll hire a new competent coach in the offseason. I don’t know. All I know is that I lost my trust in him.
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by Bruce Peter on Dec 23, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, he essentially stripped all the currency he gained by having the balls to trade Halak with the Martin move.
I almost believe that he shipped Halak now because of bias or stubbornness in regards to Price and the investment he had made, not shrewd decision making.
by Chris Boyle on Dec 23, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think it was necessarily bias or stubborness, but belief in Price based on scouting projection.
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by Bruce Peter on Dec 23, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
Bias in regards to if he had not been involved so closely would he not panic at the stall in progress. If an individual enters into the situation and has no ties to either player, how much does that affect the decision making?
If I draft a player and he fails, I am more likely to stick longer with that player than somebody who has no investment in him.
by Chris Boyle on Dec 23, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Except that his previous moves were all pretty micro-friendly, from Cole and Wiz on down.
by MathMan on Dec 23, 2011 2:38 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yeah, but are we sure they brought in based on micro-friendly reasons and not just a wish fulfillment type scenario: a) we need a PP specialist ASAP and b) we need a power forward in our top 6?
Players have managed for years without using microstats, just scouting reports, and a lot of those people would’ve used similar moves.
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…that’s working on a pretty big assumption on his part. What’s to say he will have any say on making that selection for the high draft pick let alone choosing the next coach for this team. There is still a divided camp on who’s call it was on the firing of Martin. Note it was G. Molson who came out and spoke to the press this past Monday not PG regarding the next coach of the Canadiens. But I agree with you. I have lost my faith and trust in PG. The Markov disaster ie. the whole communication subturfuge has really soured me. Its like he has played the fans and the press for fools from the start of it with Markov and in some way or form I think it has rubbed raw against the team. You know the old saw….“managing expectations”. Well the nation expected Markov back at training camp and then we were told he’d miss just a few games…..PG might have used the wrong word there…Games.. → SB → Months. What’s the fuss all about……..
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by Canadian Jet on Dec 24, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
Montreal will not win the cup with this team.. Having said that, Montreal finishing out of the playoffs and into a lottery pick position isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Come January, blow this team up, give the youngsters a chance, dump Gomez, Gill, Moen, Darche, Webber (who seems to be the odd man out on D), Kostitsyn, and maybe Cammalleri. Markhov was a horrible signing and trading for Kaberle and his contract was a bad move too. Gauthier will be gone soon so hopefulle the new GM clears house. On the positive side the Habs have 3 players on the Canadian world junior team who everyone seems to be raving about and Tinordi over on the U.S. squad. These players look like they will be making the jump to Hamilton next year or possibly this year depending on how their respective junior teams do.
That’s a hell of a rebuild. Considering none of those players are projected to have the upside of Cammalleri, Kostitsyn, or Gomez aside from perhaps the lotto pick I don’t really see the point.
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by Bruce Peter on Dec 23, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
Honestly, if Randy Cunneyworth likes guys like Blunden, Darche, and Noeklainen better than Lars Eller and PK Subban than he should’ve stayed in the AHL, where there’s tons of Darches and the Subbans and Ellers are gone by their 21st birthday.
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by Bruce Peter on Dec 23, 2011 10:21 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I get the feeling he is a lot like Carbonneau in that he likes grinders and the grinder ethic. His comments about a “blue collar team” are worrisome because I’m not sure if he realizes that leads to blue-collar results.
As an ex-grinder himself that shouldn’t be surprising, I guess.
I don’t think Carbo necessarily had a grinder love… he used to frequently bench the likes of Begin and Dandenault and always seemed willing to add the skill guys in his lineup. That being said, he liked his D to be tough over skilled, hence the Bouillon over Streit phenomenon which never made a lick of sense to me at the time.
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by Bruce Peter on Dec 23, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Bruce, he’d put grinders on his scoring lines to generate “energy”.
Sorry if I dredge up traumatic memories you’d rather leave buried. ;)
Yeah, he liked Kostopolous a lot in that role. But who else? I can’t really recall.
He also liked the 4 line strategy (until Laraque was brought in), but his 4th line was definitely his 4th line, unlike what RC is doing.
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by Bruce Peter on Dec 23, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
When he admits that JM and Perry Pearn were role models for his coaching style you knew it was time to head for the hills. Now correct me if I’m wrong here. RC was given the “interim tag” till the end of the year. Is that Dec. 31st or end of season schedule? I think it should be the 1st one based on 1 week of solid results.
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by Canadian Jet on Dec 24, 2011 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
We should be so lucky that RC would actually coach like JM. The major problem right now is that he’s not, and what he’s doing makes little sense.
While it’s not his most egregious mistake (scratching Subban would be), I think using JM’s lines while not using them for the purposes they were designed is one of the best clues that he’s out of his league. He’s giving every indication that he doesn’t understand why JM was doing the things he was doing.
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by GiantsCauseway on Dec 23, 2011 12:17 PM EST reply actions
Well, barring a change in strategy over Christmas that might be the next time I pay attention to the team.
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by Bruce Peter on Dec 23, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
I’m really worried that the current performance of the team will bring a lot more changes to the management. For the long term, I think that it would be preferable to keep the current management, and live with the results of our actions. The introduction of a new general manager could bring about some forced changes that could unbalance the future for immediate moderate results.
I’m afraid that the impatience for success from the media will constantly force management to make changes that will result in a perpetually average team.
Playing the Right Way
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But with regard to the reasoning, I think we’re indicating that they are struggling in areas, you have to look at those areas, I think they’ve got a bright future ahead of them but they have to learn to play the right way.
Cunneyworth should have been fired after his lineup was set last night. It’s like Mike Richards or an anglophone Mario Tremblay is coaching the team.
Cunneyworth seems to want everyone to play like a fourth-liner, seemingly no realizing that this will cause everyone to produce like a fourth-liner.
by MathMan on Dec 23, 2011 2:41 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I always assumed Eller played the white way.
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Thanks Panger :p
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by Kevin van Steendelaar on Dec 23, 2011 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
After the loss to Chicago, Cunneyworth admitted that Subban had a bad game, but then added that the turnovers in the offensive zone were what led to most of the problems.
Less than 24 hours later he decides that benching Subban was the solution.
Maybe he thinks that because they have a break that this will settle things down. Note to Cunneyworth: You coach the Habs
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by Kevin van Steendelaar on Dec 23, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
You’re surprised by this decision? This is the guy that has been in charge of our world beating Power Play ranked at 12.3% in-efficiency. Now he’s coaching the whole mess. Have you heard him talk? Now right there is proof of concussion damage. No wonder the PP has sucked from Day 1.
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by Canadian Jet on Dec 24, 2011 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
I thought Cammy’s comments about how they want to keep things simple and work hard but need to be provoking things, on how on the PP you can’t just put a guy in front of the net and shoot an expect that to work, how there needs to be puck movement and the shot should be the objective and not just something you do, to be quite revealing.
Also might be a record on how few games it took before a player starts publicly questioning the coach.
by MathMan on Dec 23, 2011 2:46 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
By the way
Today is Festivus….
Care to air your grievances, folks?
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by Kevin van Steendelaar on Dec 23, 2011 7:44 PM EST reply actions
I, for one, have been airing grievances for a week now.
I’d like to do the feat of strength now. Sadly, it probably means I’ll pull something.
Festivus does not end for Habs fans, until someone pins Gauthier to the floor!
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by Kevin van Steendelaar on Dec 23, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Marchand
5 Points tonight – Drafted 71st overall in the ’06 Draft
Just for shits and giggles, the Habs picked..
1st Round – David Fischer (2 spots ahead of Claude Giroux) – not even in the organization, and playing for Florida (ECHL)
2nd Round – Ben Maxwell (now with Jets) and Mathieu Carle (Syracuse – AHL)
3rd Round Ryan White – injured
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by Kevin van Steendelaar on Dec 23, 2011 10:04 PM EST reply actions
Oh and the guy picked two after Maxwell, Milan Lucic.
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by Kevin van Steendelaar on Dec 23, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
You win some, you lose some. Compare the Habs’ 2007 draft to the Bruins and as things stand right now it’s basically the opposite of 2006.
Boston’s 2005 also pales in comparison with Montreal’s — and while Montreal got lucky in the lottery, it was a snake draft, and yet you can take Price out entirely and Montreal still comes out looking better than the Bruins.
How would the Bruins have fared had Chara missed 75% of the Bruins games over the last 2+ years?
by Chris Boyle on Dec 24, 2011 12:19 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Probably not very well. They have a very shallow defense. No Subban there.
Then again you can beat anyone with a 1044 PDO…
by MathMan on Dec 24, 2011 9:45 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
All together now: CAN YOU GUYS PICK’EM!!
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by Canadian Jet on Dec 24, 2011 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
On that note, though, after being the runaway leader in PDO last season, Boston is doubling down with a PDO that’s even more obscenely high than last year’s. It’s almost enough to make you doubt the venerable, terrifying one.
I wish the Habs would hit a goalie that’d give them 8 goals on 35 shots sometimes. But noooooooooooo. They stand on their head, stop 25+ scoring chances, and the team loses by a goal.
sigh
Tinordi
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by Kevin van Steendelaar on Dec 23, 2011 11:17 PM EST reply actions
For good news, I’m at the juniors game and the 3 little habs look good.
Beaulieu is the best pp defenseman. His defensive range on evens is also impressive.
Gallagher never quits. i noticed he’d attack straight at bigger guys to negate reach disadvantage and exploit being closer to the puck. His place in the depth chart rose as the night went on.
Nothing spectacular from Bournival but he was competent
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by Stephan Cooper on Dec 24, 2011 12:22 AM EST via mobile reply actions
For good news, I’m at the juniors game and the 3 little habs look good.
Beaulieu is the best pp defenseman. His defensive range on evens is also impressive.
Gallagher never quits. i noticed he’d attack straight at bigger guys to negate reach disadvantage and exploit being closer to the puck. His place in the depth chart rose as the night went on.
Nothing spectacular from Bournival but he was competent
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by Stephan Cooper on Dec 24, 2011 12:22 AM EST via mobile reply actions
That even sounded better the 2nd time I read that Stephan…….just kidding. Actually great to hear about two of the near future Habs in Beaulieu and Gallagher.
Merry Christmas!!
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by Canadian Jet on Dec 24, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
My phone insists on birthing twins here.
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by Stephan Cooper on Dec 24, 2011 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
That Bowman likes the guy gets trotted out every time there is a GM opening. He’s a member of the media fraternity so he’s always going to get talked about for the job he wants regardless of merit.
I’m not concerned until he actually gets an interview.
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by Stephan Cooper on Dec 24, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Hockey wise, it would be a terrible decision.
But I am worried about the fact that McGuire is buddy with a lot of media. They wouldn’t blame him for anything and McGuire would love to speak to the media and explain all his decision, opposite of Gauthier.
If you look at the decision to name Cunneyworth being a PR nightmare… naming McGuire would be a good PR move. An horrible hockey decision that would set the team back for 5 or 10 years. But I don’t know what is more important to Molson, PR or hockey.
New lines:
Moen-Plekanec-Kostitsyn
Pacioretty-Eller-Cole
Blunden-Nokelainen-Darche
Cammy-DD-Leblanc
It could work — Pleks for tough minutes, Eller for secondary toughs, Cammy-DD for pure exploitation, and Nokelainen for hopefully fewer minutes.
Merry Christmas, Lars! From out of the lineup to being handed the team’s best wingers. Go figure. (But I kind of like the idea of that line).
Randy put Subban back with Gorges and is trying Emelin-Kaberle again (sigh) although maybe with Kaberle on the right this time. Then Gill-Diaz and Campoli-Weber. Who sits? Campoli-Weber?
If he sits Gorges he loses the room. If he hasn’t already. There’s stupid, and then there’s stupid so stupid even the media won’t condone it.
by MathMan on Dec 26, 2011 7:47 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I think he can get away with this lineup if, and only if, he at long last separates Subban and Gorges and runs with Gorges/Emelin Gill/Subban Diaz/Kaberle.
Also, none of Gio and Gomez are back this week. We’ll see. Pleks/Moen/AKost and Eller/Cole can clamp down on a pretty large amount of minutes. This could be interesting.




































