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Time for some perspective

I have long given up the fight trying to convince the emotional mind to produce rational thought. If one made their life goal to fight this fight and lived in the city of Montreal they would find themselves in the madhouse very quickly.

The emotional fan tends to jump to scapegoating and simplistic conclusions. Fire Jacques Martin. Bring back Kirk Muller, he and his zero head coaching experience was responsible for the success, not the coach who had more than 500 wins before Captain Kirk arrived in Montreal. This is happening because they let go their best 38 year old defenseman, look how the team who finishes with 100+ points every year is doing with him in their lineup now. 

Six games is not a representative sample size, if it was then Gauthier is an idiot for allowing Marc Andre Bergeron to walk, he is on pace for 105 points. The Canadiens since the lockout usually get out to a roaring start and then collapse mid-season, requiring a strong stretch run to sneak into the playoffs. That enough should offer enough proof that a poor six game stretch can take place at any point in an 82 game season and derail a playoff run.

Using the time-machine called shrpsports.com I have gone back and looked at the Canadiens early season results and compared and analyzed them to their final standing (sarcasm and sacred cows are highlighted in black). Let's start with the post-lockout Canadiens .

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2005-06 SEASON

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Coming out of the lockout the Habs jumped out to a 6-2 start and actually extended that start to 13-4-3 through 20 games. Of course ALL of that was undone after a  6-12-3 run through December cost Claude Julien his job. Julien needed to be fired. His system was boring and stifled offense and creativity, he lost the room and playing that type of system will not lead to any long term success. The Canadiens managed to get hot down the stretch riding Cristobal Huet and enjoyed an 8 game winning streak that moved them into 7th place and a first round ouster at the hands of the eventual Stanley Cup champion Carolina Hurricanes.

2006-07 SEASON

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The 2007 season began with another bang as the Canadiens came out of the gate strong. With a 12-5-3 start added to their late 2006 run, optimism ran high with the emergence of sniper Chris Higgins and the Vezina level goaltending tandem of Cristobal Huet and David Aebischer. The annual mid-season meltdown occurred as the Canadiens went 8-17-1 from Christmas to mid February. The Canadiens got hot down the stretch lead by future Hall of Famer Jaroslav Halak leading to a confrontation for the ages. CBC hosted the battle for 17th to huge ratings as the Toronto Maple Leafs ousted the Canadiens and themselves from the playoff picture with a 6-5 win. 

2007-08 SEASON

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Still wincing from losing the opportunity to be eliminated by the Sabres in round one of the 2007 playoffs, the Canadiens started the season with 4 wins in their first 8 games. Through 20 games the Canadiens sat 11-6-3 and through mid-December the Canadiens were clinging to 7th place. Sitting in 8th place in February the Canadiens handed the reigns to Carey Price who lead them to a 14-4-1 finish, their best finish in close to 20 years and first place in the Eastern Conference. After a first round playoff victory against the Bruins, an all rookie team nomination, a World Junior MVP, a CHL MVP and a AHL Playoff MVP, it was obvious that Carey Price was not Patrick Roy and it was time to go to Jaroslav Halak after game two against the Flyers. Halak hinted at his future miracle playoff run with his .889 SV% and a second round loss to the Flyers.

2008-09 SEASON

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Building on the 2008 season, the Canadiens with the addition of Alex Tanguay and Robert Lang destroyed the Eastern Conference through the early part of the season. Through 6 games the Canadiens were on the verge of becoming like the 2012 powerhouse Toronto Maple Leafs. The Canadiens sat at 11-5-4 through 20 games and through early January were in third place 10 points clear of 9th place. The 9th place team? The pathetic Pittsburgh Penguins, a team who was on the verge of embarrassing themselves by winning the Stanley Cup in 5 months. The Canadiens limped down the stretch and were handed the opportunity to be blitzed by the Bruins in the first round by virtue of a tiebreak with the Panthers, once again proving that Carey Price doesn't have the stuff to be an elite NHL goaltender.

2009-10 SEASON

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The Jacques Martin era begins with a bang as the Canadiens bumble out of the gate with a 2-5 start. The team of little blue forwards is over-matched by the hulking teams in the league and cannot compete struggling to maintain .500 through 40 games. The Canadiens bench the lazy, uncaring over-matched Carey Price with Jaroslav Halak and sneak into the playoffs as the 8th seed. A slow start to the season proves too much for the Canadiens to overcome as they march to the Conference Finals on the back of Steve Penney. The brilliant tactical efforts of Kirk Muller are not enough to overcome the folded arms of Jacques Martin and the Canadiens are ousted by the Flyers in the Conference Finals.

2010-2011 SEASON

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Trying to succeed in the Eastern Conference with somebody like Carey Price in goal seemed like a lost cause. The bright spot was the return of Andrei Markov. After a slow start in October, the return of Markov spurred an 11-5-1 record. Markov was lost for the season in November and was soon followed by Josh Gorges. PK Subban was benched in December and it was clear that Jacques Martin was stifling his development. After losing Cammalleri in January it was clear that he Canadiens stifling system could not possibly withstand this many injuries as they stumbled to 13-8-1 and lost in game seven OT to the eventual champion Bruins. 

As we can see from the above examples, a strong start is essential to a strong finish and a 6 game sample is highly indicative of future results. There must be more examples of recent history to indicate how important an early season sample is. Let's look at the most recent Stanley Cup champion teams from Montreal.

1985-86 SEASON

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The 1986 season began with Steve Penney in goal and a young Patrick Roy awaiting his chance. It became quite clear early that you cannot succeed with a lot of rookies playing important roles as the Canadiens stumbled out of the gate at 4-6-1. The points they gave away in October proved to be more valuable than the ones they accrued during a 14-5-1 run in November/December as the Canadiens stumbled to their 23rd Stanley Cup championship riding the backs of over-matched rookies Patrick Roy, Claude Lemieux, Stephane Richer and Brian Skrudland.

1992-93 SEASON

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The 1993 season started with a new coach and a roster overhaul. In were Vincent Damphousse and Brian Bellows, out were Russ Courtnall and Shayne Corson. The 1993 roster was once again depending on over-matched youth and a slow start indicated that the Canadiens might need to think about replacing Patrick Roy with the young promising Andre Racicot. Although Roy had won three Vezina's and a Stanley Cup and Conn Smythe trophy during his first 7 seasons, he hadn't done it in 1992, so the 27 year old was in decline. After a 2-3-1 start the Canadiens went 12-1-1 and vaulted to the elite of the league. The calls for Racicot intensified after the Canadiens lost 11 of their final 17 and fell behind the Nordiques 2-0 in the first round. Once again, the fans were right to stick by Patrick Roy as he lead the Canadiens to their 24th Stanley Cup.

More proof that October points are just as important as the points in April as the Canadiens struggled to overcome slow starts in 1986 and 1993. Maybe changing coaches in those years would have brought more success, because you can generally tell by body language that when a coach loses the room he has to go. 

1988-89 SEASON

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The 1989 Montreal Canadiens struggled out of the gate. It was obvious early on that a young Pat Burns was over-matched for NHL competition. 4-8-1 through 13 games was a clear indication that there would be no Jack Adams awards in his future and Dick Irvin worried about him lasting into December. Last place in the Wales Conference in November made it pretty evident that the Canadiens would have to wait until 1990 to make their mark. Who knows what they could have accomplished if they hadn't given away those early points and finished the season with 117 points and not 115. Home ice advantage against the Flames could have been the difference between them losing game six of the Stanley Cup final on the road and not at home. 

1995-96 SEASON

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1-5-0? This was a definite indication that the coach needed to be fired, the GM too. What had Serge Savard accomplished anyways? 15 years and he only had two Stanley Cups, one finals appearance and two conference finals losses on his resume? It was obvious that the coach had lost the room and that the players didn't respect the two time Jack Adams, Stanley Cup winning coach anymore. I could see the look in Pierre Turgeon's face, the slumped shoulders of  Patrick Roy and the deer in the headlights confusion of rookie Saku Koivu. The sensible solution would be to get rid of both of them and hire a new GM and coaching staff with zero experience. New thinking was needed and some of the All-Stars had become too complacent. Patrick Roy hadn't won a playoff series in TWO SEASONS and was in definite decline. Youth was the way to go, a fresh start could lead the Canadiens to a new dynasty. The Canadiens came to their senses fired the GM, coach and dealt their last true superstar and made a run to the first round of the playoffs on the back of a young francophone goaltender destined for greatness. Proof that emotionally reacting to small sample sizes leads to success.

 

 

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Breathe. Inhale. Relax.

Has anybody learned any lessons from last season? Has anybody learned any lessons from the last 20 seasons? Put down your Molson Ex, put out your cigarette, wipe the poutine off your jersey and come in off the ledge. Would I like it better if the Canadiens were 5-0-1 today? Of course I would, but I also would have in the back of my mind that the Canadiens routinely collapse mid-season and that it secures nothing. Phil Kessel is not going to score 96 goals and finish with 164 points (prepare for the 100 post barrage from the residents of PPP for that one). Kari Lehtonen is not going to win 82 games and the Canadiens are not going to finish in 10th place.

 

There is 93% of the season left. That may be a good omen.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Oct 21, 2011 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

A very good post. Of course people go crazy after such a bad start. Yet, the only real bad game the Habs played was the one yesterday. On the other hand I must say I wouldn´t mind a new Head Coach. Decent options are unfortunately very rare.

The Pens without Crosby, Malkin and Letang on paper don´t look better than Ottawa or Winnipeg but on the ice, they are still a very good team. I know Jacques Martin isn´t as bad as some fans think but I am 100% sure someone like Dan Bylsma would get more out of this team.

by Torres on Oct 21, 2011 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Great analysis and well written post. My concern is similar to what happened with Claude Julien and Jacques Demers. Has Jacques Martin lost the room…

2005-06 SEASON
 
Coming out of the lockout the Habs jumped out to a 6-2 start and actually extended that start to 13-4-3 through 20 games. Of course ALL of that was undone after a 6-12-3 run through December cost Claude Julien his job. Julien needed to be fired. His system was boring and stifled offense and creativity, he lost the room and playing that type of system will not lead to any long term success. The Canadiens managed to get hot down the stretch riding Cristobal Huet and enjoyed an 8 game winning streak that moved them into 7th place and a first round ouster at the hands of the eventual Stanley Cup champion Carolina Hurricanes.

by Ashok11 on Oct 21, 2011 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

No. The Canadiens played two dominating games in a row and got 1 point out of it. They lost a top two center early in the game and didn’t have the last line change to provide the matchups that Martin wanted. Add to the fact that you can’t be great every night and you get an ugly game.

Most fans don’t pay attention to corsi/matchups/etc so they want Desharnais to play 1st line minutes. When he does and he gets dominated they get mad at Martin even though it is exactly what they wanted.

by Chris Boyle on Oct 21, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like the people questioning why the third line was broken up. That plenty missed that they couldn’t get the high ground to do what they do without Gomez’s shelter and that Montreal’s best ES winger (Pacioretty) was needed on the first line to try and get some control of the game back.

by Stephan Cooper on Oct 21, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you nailed it on the head in your pre-season preview about the roles of the lines. When viewed in that context, games like last night are easier to accept and understand.

by Chris Boyle on Oct 21, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sadly, many fans apparently are stuck in thinking that top-six offense, bottom-six defense is the height of line strategy. Numbered lines doesn’t really describe the Habs strategy this year as they roll three lines. Its better described by role.

Counter line: Centered by Plekanec, defense focus, always toughest situation
Bridge line: Centered by Gomez, swings from defensive to offensive focus according to situation
Exploitation line: Centered by Desharnais, makes use of the high ground to generate sustained offense.

By old school thinking the Plekanec line is the third and Desharnais line the first despite being opposite in true importance.

by Stephan Cooper on Oct 21, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Things like that is what drives me crazy when somebody criticizes the coach. That simple observation by you is elementary for Martin and chinese to Joe fan.

by Chris Boyle on Oct 21, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

What annoys me more than the regular ignorant are those that get trapped up from their own experience in hockey, beit beer league or minor amateur and what not. There are all sorts of memes that circulate about the best ways to do things based on how hockey works at the lower levels rather than in the best professional league.

I’m talking about things like the huge superiority of 2-1-2 to 1-2-2 forechecking, That parking yourself in the crease is always a great tactical move and that defensemen must be big mean sonsofbitches get circulated by people who have never bothered to look at how true this is in the NHL rather than their own experience.

There’s a Habs fan whose an ex-minor coach blogging out there that always struck me as the epitome of this kind of thinking. So knowledgeable and yet missing the point by so much.

by Stephan Cooper on Oct 21, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t even know if it’s opposite in terms of true importance; each line sets the other up. Maybe opposite in terms of utility: the Plekanec line can score as well as defend if given the chance.

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by Bruce Peter on Oct 21, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d argue that’s what defines the importance, one can opperate without the other while that isn’t true the other way. But that’s just semantics.

by Stephan Cooper on Oct 21, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, my point is just that all three are needed to execute the gameplan of winning the possession battle.

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by Bruce Peter on Oct 21, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris brings the goods. Kudos.

@Torres. Pittsburgs team game is highly underrated. They got as far as they did with Staal as their top center for a reason. They’re excellent defensively and can control the game with a strong forecheck. Last night they did to the Habs by cutting passing lanes what the Habs on occasion do by puck control and puck movement, dominate the other team territorially.

by Stephan Cooper on Oct 21, 2011 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Staal is very underrated.

by Chris Boyle on Oct 21, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Staal would be at worst our #2 centre. The difference betwene Plekanec and him is probably very little, if anything, based on how he played as the #1 last year in the second half. So, while the Pens are down their top 2 centres, arguably their current top centre is still about as good as ours is.

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by Bruce Peter on Oct 21, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn’t intending to denigrate Staal, More to point out that Pittsburg is a lot more than Malkin, Crosby and some humps. They can play well without the superstars. And no one would argue that Montreal doesn’t have a much more talented winger group.

by Stephan Cooper on Oct 21, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s hard to say Jordan Staal is underrated when he gets more press than someone with his skill level or accomplishments ever deserves to get. For the most part he’s been taking the secondary assignments his whole career and has yet to really break out offensively in spite of getting lots of PP time.

If anything I’d say he’s overrated by the media. I’d say he gets about 4 times the coverage that Plekanec gets in Canada alone in spite of playing on an American team.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Oct 21, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

He gets a lot of press because of the team he plays for and is compared to guys who offensively produce way outside his level on his own team.

I think a lot of people view him as a limited offensive player and as a 3rd line center. I believe Plekanec is a legit 1st line center and comparing Staal to him would indicate you do as well. So where most people believe he is more of a defensive player, he has produced at a 60 pt pace since he returned from injury without the Crosby/Malkin shelter.

When Crosby/Malkin went down, the consensus was “they’re screwed”, when they didn’t collapse, the consensus was “Marc Andre Fleury is the team MVP” (I heard that last night on the telecast). I hear Fleury get the credit, I hear Bylsma getting credit and this season Letang, but I rarely here Staal being branded as the guy behind their success.

by Chris Boyle on Oct 21, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really? I hear TSN giving Staal credit all the time. But in terms of impact I would put him behind Letang. Fleury is a question mark for me because he can be their best and worst player depending on the night, Staal is at least consistent.

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by Andrew Berkshire on Oct 21, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

PIerre McGuire screaming louder than everybody else doesn’t count!

by Chris Boyle on Oct 21, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay then I concede hahahaha

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by Andrew Berkshire on Oct 21, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

A valid concern?

Very interesting analysis and cool-headed point of view. I agree the hysteria surrounding this whole “debacle” is maddening to behold, and calls for everyone from Marc Crawford to Patrick Roy to step behind the bench makes the mind reel.

However, doesn’t your own observation that “the Canadiens routinely collapse mid-season” make this awkwardly sluggish start a point of valid concern, even for sophisticated observers who see beyond “Joe Fan” ? The ghost of last year’s Devils rattles its chains!

Severely depleted Pittsburgh is a well-oiled, beautifully coached machine. These Habs are not, at this point. They may become so and win the Cup, but in the meantime, the fans’ learning process looks to be as painful as that of our youngsters.

And hey, if all else fails, the ones who claim tanking is the only way to success will be happy!

by HABraCHadabra on Oct 21, 2011 6:38 PM EDT reply actions  

That was a generalization.The Habs middle out during the 30-60 game mark almost every year, the year they won the East they caught fire down the stretch after hanging around the edge of the playoffs.

If they start slow, they get hot and move into the fight for 6-10th. If they start out hot, they slump and move into that 6-10th fight. Last season was really the only season where they remained in the 5-8th slot for the majority of the season.

It becomes a concern if it is a Devils level early season collapse, but not at this point.

by Chris Boyle on Oct 21, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. All I’m saying is that questioning the team’s performance so far is not irrational.

That said, the adversity and growing pains that the Habs (and especially their rookies) are going through early on may pay off in terms of accelerated growth further down the road: Emelin, for one, is already showing progress and adapting to NHL-level play; Eller will get more quality time given the holes in the lineup. That is one reason why the mid-season collapse may be averted.

Hope springs eternal!

by HABraCHadabra on Oct 21, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing is that its not like the Canadiens have played particularly bad on the whole. They just haven’t won.

by Stephan Cooper on Oct 21, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

EXCUSE ME!??!?!?!

There are THREE Ps in the name.

There is certainly something to be said that you cannot get too worked up over 6 games but it doesn’t take long to build a hole too deep to dig out of in one season. Trust me. It just isn’t 6 games.

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by PPP on Oct 21, 2011 7:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Typo.

Right now they are 3 points out of 8th. It is only 6 games.

by Chris Boyle on Oct 21, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

That wasn’t a typo, it was a Freudian slip.

by Robert L on Oct 21, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another "Excuse Me"

Chris…a very good post and I had to bite my tongue with that sarcasm you threw in there….that was terrific. However, I do take issue with one of your follow-up comments concerning last night’s game. You mentioned that we had lost a “top two line centre”. I’m sorry did DD or Plekanec get hurt and not return? I thought I read it was Gomez was the one that got hurt. He is definitely not our # 2 centre. This is where I take issue with Martin in his role of coaching. Lars Eller played very well during the final part of the regular season last year. He followed that up with a very impressive 7 game performance against the Bruins……playing Game 7 with a serious shoulder injury. Has Jacques forgotten that? He comes back and boom he’s got him playing on the dam wing. Eller needs to be in the middle. He is a skilled playmaker in the making. He will go to the net, the corners, high traffic areas that our friend Gomez will not. Eller gives his wingers a very good chance to score. Unlike those wingers playing with Gomez. He has done nothing to change the bad habits he exhibited last year. He said he was going to play harder and better….but he’s not and Martin isn’t doing anything about it. That hurts our team.

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by Canadian Jet on Oct 22, 2011 4:21 AM EDT reply actions  

With Gomez out and Martin not willing to have Eller take faceoffs in the defensive zone (more on Eller later) this was the first time David Desharnais faced un-sheltered 2nd-line opposition. Desharnais was obliterated. He finished (-2) in traditional +/- (not that you should look at traditional +/-), a team-worst -8 in scoring chances, and a team worse -19 in shot differential (the next worst forward was -10). Asserting that Desharnais is a 2nd-line centre completely ignoring the defensive side of hockey.

With Eller I get the feeling Martin is easing him back into the lineup Keep in mind the guy didn’t get a training camp. Playing him on the wing lessens his defensive responsibilities and the no Dzone faceoffs last game means that Martin thinks he needs to be sheltered at this point. Eller playing on the wing was temporary (aesthetically I thought he looked pretty good there… much better than last year) but we should see him back at centre permanently in a short while.

Frankly, I’m kind of surprised Martin didn’t play Eller in that 2nd-line role last night (i.e. actually taking defensive zone faceoffs). Desharnais was in way over his head on Thursday and moving Eller into a more complete role may have been the only way the bleeding might have been stopped. If the roles are the same tonight against Toronto it could be a long game.

If Gomez is out for a few weeks we’re going to see how important he actually is. He won’t rack up points at the level of his salary but he soaks up fairly tough minutes which allows the likes of Eller and Desharnais to generate offense against lesser opposition. Gomez isn’t as important as Plekanec (God help us if he gets injured) but he’s a key cog in the lineup and that’s not changing until next season at the earliest.

by Roke on Oct 22, 2011 6:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kent Wilson, Puck Prospectus

Shocking Analysis. He also agrees that the sky isn’t falling.

http://www.puckprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=1141

I have to say personally I probably am overly concerned about the powerplay and it’s mainly an aesthetic thing with Plekanec at the point.

by Roke on Oct 22, 2011 6:37 AM EDT reply actions  

I knew it had to be bad, but that’s horrendous luck to have a PDO of 896!

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by Bruce Peter on Oct 22, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Habs played lousy in the pre-season...

and everyone said “Don’t worry”. Then they started the season poorly & everyone says, “Don’t worry”. So tell me oh puck-prognosticators, when should I worry?
We lost a lot of experience on the blue-line, have not improved our ability to score, Gomez seems to have infected Cole with “Stonehandsitis”, & Price needs a miracle performance every night to keep it close. There is a difference between optimism & magical thinking here.

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by GiantsCauseway on Oct 22, 2011 8:56 AM EDT reply actions  

I´ll start to worry when this team doesn´t win at least one of the next two. Actually three points have to be the minumum. As for the poor start: It definitely is one when it comes to the points. On the other hand: The way the team played we should have at least six points which would not be that bad.

by Torres on Oct 22, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hyperbole much?

Price needs a miracle performance to keep it close?

• He was bad vs. Colorado and it went to a shootout.
• He was average against the Sabres and it was a one goal game.
• He was average against the Leafs and it was a 2-0 loss.
• Strong against Winnipeg and won 5-1

You have chose to focus on two out of 6 games to highlight and if he had been extraordinary against Calgary it would have been 1 of 6.

They are 3 points out of the last playoff spot with 152 points yet to be determined. That is called perspective and context. Not emotionally pissed off reactionary analysis based on fear.

by Chris Boyle on Oct 22, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

habs

Your analysis of Claude Julien sound a lot like JM

by hoofer on Oct 22, 2011 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

That was clearly on purpose.

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