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Habs Top 25 Under 25:  5-2


Yeah, we're going to stretch this out just a little bit longer.  Of course, by the end of this piece, it should be pretty obvious who we collectively think is the best player under 25 in the organization, but we'll be giving him his own feature regardless.  In the meantime, have a look back at the series from the start:  the Introduction, #25-21, #20-16, #15-11, and #10-6.  Also, another special thanks are due to the crew at the Copper & Blue (yes, I'm a poet and I do know it) for the concept.

#5:  Louis Leblanc, C, 19 years old

He's the man who possesses probably the greatest hockey name on this entire list, and he's already a bit of a local legend despite not playing any meaningful games in Canada for the past two years.  That will all change this fall, as Leblanc looks to join the list of famous Harvard dropouts such as Bill Gates, Howard Hughes, Robert Frost, and Matt Damon.  But it's not like we're putting unrealistic expectations on him or anything...  right?

Leblanc will start his post-Crimson journey wearing the decidedly less pretentious maroon of the Montreal Junior Hockey Club after turning professional by signing a 3 year entry level contract with the Montreal Canadiens this August.  The year in Verdun should help prepare him for the professional schedule, the media demands of Montreal, and to put him in top form in time for the Canadian U20 World Junior Championships, a team he is expected to make after being a late cut last year.  He's already helped the QMJHL team become a hot ticket in Montreal, as the Juniors have already sold out a handful of regular season games well before the start of the season.  All this for a player few have actually been able to see play, albeit one that was picked 18th overall by the Canadiens just a year ago.

Leblanc was the 1st overall pick in the 2007 QMJHL midget draft by Val D'Or, even though he had indicated he was not going the major junior route and pursue his education at Harvard.  This forced Leblanc to spend another year playing AAA Midget hockey before going to Omaha to join the USHL's Lancers in his NHL draft year (2008-09).  This lack of exposure might be the reason the scouting reports on him are quite mixed.  Some say his speed is one of his best assets, but others view it as merely average.  For what it's worth, when I saw him play at the 2009 U20 Evaluation Camp in Saskatoon, where he played left wing on a line with Matt Duchene, he always seemed to gain a step on the defenders and cause problems with his acceleration.  Perhaps not surprisingly for a man who was admitted to Harvard, his hockey smarts are well regarded by everyone, with buzz words like 'crafty' and 'great vision' making frequent appearances in scouting summaries.  Rich Michalowski of Premium Scouting sees him as a player in the Sam Gagner mould, a strong two-way talent who will need to develop physically to become a successful pro.  His junior coach, Pascal Vincent, sees a lot of Mike Richards in him. 

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Visual proof that Pouliot indeed did play in the 2010 Stanley Cup playoffs.  All photos courtesy of Getty Images.

#4:  Benoit Pouliot, LW, 23 years old

Acquired via trade from the Minnesota Wild last November for Guillaume Latendresse, Pouliot had a prolific start to his Montreal Canadiens career, scoring 15 goals over 39 games to finish out the regular season.  However, things got rocky over the final stretch, and in the playoffs, Pouliot was a bit contributor, not scoring a single goal while being relegated to the 4th line more often than not.  He was a highly productive junior player who was selected 4th overall in 2005, but failed to stick with the Minnesota Wild.  So, what exactly can we make of Pouliot at this point in his career?

Pouliot's game is centered around his speed.  At his best, he's the guy who has cheated a little on the breakout play, pushing the defenders out of position and receiving a stretch pass in full stride to create an offensive chance.  This should make him a perfect compliment on a line with effective defensive players like Scott Gomez and Brian Gionta.  In fact, it's precisely those free wheeling qualities that helped Pouliot start his career with the Canadiens on fire:  after getting his feet wet in his first two games coming off a nagging wrist injury, Pouliot had 14 goals and 8 assists in a 27 game span from December 28 - March 20, reaching the scoresheet in 19 of 27 games.  In that time span, he only had 5 games with less than 15 minutes of ice time, a mark he only reached twice with the Wild before the trade.  Then, to close out the year, he only had 1 goal and 1 assist in his final 10 games, and only 2 assists in 18 games (plus one game as a healthy scratch).  In that stretch, his ice time was severely cut, he only broke 15 minutes in half of those games, and 9 times saw under 10 minutes.  (all game stats from NHL.com)

I'm not going to go into excruciating detail on the subject, (leave that for our good friend Olivier Bouchard and his scoring chances breakdowns at En Attendant Les Nordiques) but clearly Pouliot's effectiveness is dictated by his linemates, and he has yet to find a role outside of 'third wheel' in the NHL to this point.  Despite losing that role down the stretch last year, Pouliot is the front runner for the open spot on the top 6 heading into training camp this year.  He possesses the size, puck skill, speed and shot to play that role, he just might not have the hockey sense.  With gradual improvements in his play without the puck, Pouliot should be able to be a decent scorer in the NHL, with an upside of around 25 goals a year.  However, there is a reason the Habs did not want to go to arbitration with him, and did not submit a qualifying offer to him this past June (and then gave him a 50% raise anyways).  He has yet to prove himself a strong player in his own right, but he's shown signs of being a useful player for the future.

Safe to say, this year is incredibly important for Benoit Pouliot.

#3:  Lars Eller, C, 21 years old 93015420_medium

Acquired in the controversial Jaroslav Halak trade in June, Lars Eller is the top dog in the greatest generation of Danish hockey players to date.  He has everything scouts look for in a centre outside a top 5 selection:  great speed, good size, excellent hands and strong hockey sense.  As a 20 year old rookie, he played tough minutes for the Peoria Rivermen and came out with 57 points, despite fighting a bout of mono to start the year.  That 57 point output led the cellar dwelling team in points by 13, and earned him seven games with the St. Louis Blues where he potted his first two NHL goals.  At the end of the season, he suited up for Denmark at the World Championships, where he finished in a tie for second in team scoring with 5 points in 7 games, helping the Danes to their highest ever finish (8th). 

In short, Eller fills what has been a desperate need for the Canadiens for many years:  he is a young, playmaking centre who has first line potential.  He's a guy who makes the players he plays with better, and has shown great ability at even strength.  He is a fundamentally sound hockey player with very little downside, and no obvious red flags when it comes to personality or work ethic.  Corey Pronman at Premium Scouting gives this report:

He’s at his best with the puck on his stick as he can be an elusive puck-handler and is an excellent playmaker. Eller displays a solid all-around game as he comes back hard on defense, plays an excellent penalty kill and also has some grit to his game. He won’t be a sniper at the highest level, although he definitely has an average shot that could beat NHL goalies. He has produced at every level he’s played at. The last two year’s stats may be influenced because Peoria, the Blues’ AHL team was simply horrific and Eller’s 57 points led the team despite taking some time to play on the big club.

Eller's immediate future with the Habs is uncertain, though many are pegging him for the 3rd line centre job that was left open with the departures of Dominic Moore and Glen MetropolitDustin Boyd, Maxim Lapierre, Ben Maxwell and David Desharnais are all in the mix for this role, so it's not a given that Eller will be given the job.  With two strong, two-way centres occupying the top 2 spots, the Habs might be able to afford to give a youngster like Eller a shot on the 3rd line, eating up some softer minutes with the idea of getting some decent production from their third line.  There's a chance Eller will be sent to Hamilton, but he appears to be the forward who spent most of last year in the AHL that has the best shot at making the Canadiens right out of training camp.

When I was floating around the idea of doing this list, I kept wondering to myself:  Where would the panel have put Jaroslav Halak?  Then I realized Halak had turned 25 in May, and would not have qualified for the list as a result, but it was an interesting thought.  According to our prognosticators, we traded Halak for our 3rd and 20th most promising youngsters.  So, in fairness to Pierre Gauthier, I think we can safely say that we think it was a pretty good return on investment in that light.

#2:  P.K. Subban, D, 21 years old

Well, here's the moment you've been waiting for.  In what was obviously a two horse race for the top spot on our list (no players listed previously got even a second place vote), the current darling of the Habs faithful came up a little short.  We'll talk more about the other guy later.  Subban is clearly the star child of the Canadiens organization right now:  his energy is contagious, his play is enchanting, and his results to date are staggering.  Here's a quick rundown of what's happened to Subban since being drafted 43rd overall in 2007: 98949836_medium

  • 160 points in 152 OHL games (including playoffs)
  • 9 points in 13 U20 WJC games, winning two gold medals
  • 63 points in 84 AHL games (including playoffs) as a rookie
  • 10 points in 16 NHL games (including playoffs) as a callup
  • All-Rookie Team (AHL), All-Star team (OHL and U20 WJCs)

He's a puckmoving defenseman with incredible skating ability, great puck control, good passing skills and a decent point shot.  His skills translate well into being a PP quarterback, as he prefers to hold onto the puck, drawing defenders to him before making a pass or doing a spin-o-rama to create an even greater advantage.  While his moves are of the high risk variety, his skill pays off more often than not, even against NHL veterans.  He always makes plays with his head up, and rarely retreats with the puck, pushing the play forward towards the opponent's goal.  His defensive game lacks polish, but is passable at the NHL level.  This is what seperates Subban from his main competition in the OHL, Drew Doughty.  That being said, Subban has always been able to dominate at every level to date, and there is little reason to doubt his abilities won't translate well into the NHL long term.

When Subban was drafted, his first press conference had all the Montreal media glowing about his confidence and personality.  He joked about his name (it stands for Penalty Kill), he constantly smiled, he even claimed he was going to make the Habs out of training camp at age 18.  This didn't happen, but now at 21, there's no doubt he will be in the starting lineup this October, potentially lining up beside Andrei Markov on the top defensive pairing.  He's eligible for the Calder Trophy this coming season, and if you asked him about it, he'd probably say he was going to win it. 

It's quite safe to say that we haven't seen a player as skilled as Subban with that level of confidence in the Canadiens system for a long time.  In fact, for a generation of Habs fans, he's one of a kind. 

Rank Player Pos. Age Height Weight Current Team Habs Contract
2 P.K. Subban D 21 5'11" 207 lbs. Montreal Canadiens (NHL) Yes
3 Lars Eller C/LW 21 6'1" 198 lbs. Hamilton Bulldogs (AHL) Yes
4 Benoit Pouliot LW 23 6'3" 181 lbs. Montreal Canadiens (NHL) Yes
5 Louis Leblanc C 19 6'0" 181 lbs. Montreal Junior Hockey Club (QMJHL) Yes

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We all know that Carey Price is at #1 so let’s take a look at the top 5 prospects.

Pouliot – This is the guy that Timmins said he would have taken 5th overall (instead of Price) in 2005 if Pouliot was still available. Great size and skill set but he’s as inconsistent and lazy as can be. Was given a top six role when he arrived but then fizzled out and was a non factor in the playoffs. The Habs are dead in the water if Pouliot and AK46 can’t shine this year. Time to step up and fill his potential because it won’t be long before Eller is breathing down his neck

Eller & Leblanc – Two young prospects with decent size who both play centre. Hallelujah! Eller should make the Habs this season and may eventually have to move to the wing to make room for Leblanc. Eller doesn’t shine in any great way but also has no major faults. Leblanc is a solid skater who really has great hockey smarts. I trust that the Habs won’t fast track him and ruin his development. Both players project to be respectable top 6 forwards but not really stars in the true sense of the word. Should provide some solid speed, skill and grit for a realistic Cup run in another three years. Both guys need to bulk up big time during the next few seasons.

Subban & Price – I’m not trying to put too much pressure on these two, but there will be no Cup in Montreal this decade unless both these players become all-stars. Price is only 23 but should be a stellar goalie a few years down the road when it will count the most. Totally mismanaged by G&G, he will now be able to take the time needed to build his skills and confidence as the #1 goalie. Needs to get his head straight and gear back on his ego. Price’s career will ultimately decide Gainey’s legacy as GM.

Subban could be in the running for rookie of the year this season along with other Dmen such as Carlson, McBain and Ekman-Larsson. He is part of the new group of elite Dmen who are about to take over from the old guard. He’s no Doughty, but certainly is on the next rung of talented young defensemen. He has a great first step and covers a lot of ice quickly. My only concern is that his style of play leaves him wide open for cheap shots and concussion inducing hits. He should benefit from playing with Spacek or Hamrlik on the left side this year. Probably our best draft pick since Koivu and Markov

by 24 Cups on Sep 1, 2010 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

WAY to early to say G&G mishandled him.

Historically Price has accomplished more than 99% of goaltenders his age post expansion. Outside of Fuhr, Roy, Moog, Carey and Luongo it is hard to find a goaltender with the same resume. His colossal meltdown at 21 was a .905 SV%.

Guys like Miller weren’t even in the league and Fleury and Ward didn’t put up a +.905 SV% until they were 23 and 24.

by Chris Boyle on Sep 1, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

To illustrate exactly how ridiculous the Price-is-ruined-forever talk is, and swiping liberally from the comments in http://www.fromtherink.com/2010/8/30/1657975/a-few-teams-still-with-big#comments :

Price’s career numbers on 23rd birthday: 134 GP, 60-48-18, 2.73 GAA, .912 SV%
Halak’s career numbers on 23rd birthday: 22 GP, 12-7-1, 2.71 GAA, .913 SV%
Fleury’s career numbers on 23rd birthday: 155GP, 63-65-16 with 2 ties, 3.25GAA, .893SV%
Ward’s career numbers on 23rd birthday: 39-25-8 3.16GAA .894SV%

And another note about Price’s “colossal meltdown”:
.906: Marc-Andre Fleury’s career average. That guy is seen as the goalie of the hour, a Canadian Olympian, and a Stanley Cup winner.
.905: Cam Ward’s career average. That guy is seen as a budding elite goalie, a Stanley Cup winner, and the unofficial #4 on Team Canada’s depth chart.
.905: Carey Price’s 2008-2009 season. That was seen as a “colossal meltdown” and there’s no shortage of people who see Price as a bust because of it.

Incredible how for goalies, hype and perception and team success is everything.

by MathMan on Sep 1, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Things are not that simple because...

why do people than question him?
Because he has not delivered in the post-season (lost like nine in a row, with a horrible save percentage of .894)?
Because he never regained the shape and confidence of his rookie season after his injury midway through the season 08/09?
Because he had a career low in wins and a career high in losses in 09/10 with no shutout?

I am not saying all is lost. I hope he signs, comes into camp, and then goes on to deliver a 40-win season. He can do it. All I’m saying is that sceptics are not without any reasons to be so.

by SurabayaJ on Sep 1, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

The skeptics are not exactly known as big picture thinkers. They pick and choose facts to suit their agenda and completely disregard quality of opponent facts and stats and how the team has played in front of Price, regarding goal support.

If folks had a modicum of understanding how everything comes to together, then it gets simpler to undertsand. People aren’t willing to learn as it might prove them wrong. I’ve had blue in face arguments with friends, cement heads, who let their perceptions be made for them by partial facts and media angles.

by Robert L on Sep 1, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s not going to deliver a 40-win season with the Habs. Even if he plays extremely well.

The Habs are just not good enough to give 40 wins to their starter.

This illustrates a long-running pet peeve of mine: wins are a team stat. They are completely useless as an individual goalie stat. The goalie factors in, but he can only do so much. One of the reasons Price had a “career low in wins” and a “career high in losses” is because the Habs couldn’t score while he was in nets. And no, that’s not because the skaters are “less confident with Price in goal” (that would mean the Habs have a serious problem with their skaters!).

Mind you, I do think that may be one of the reasons he gets questioned so much — he gets associated with a lot of the Habs’ losses. Just that it’s far from being eniterly his fault.

I strongly suspect that Price will come into 2010-2011, play very well, maybe even excellently, and yet the Habs will lose a lot and Price will single-handedly take the blame. The problem is that, if 2009-2010 is anything to go by, the Habs are a pretty terrible hockey club. So losing is to be expected and the best a goalie can do is bring them into vague respectability.

by MathMan on Sep 1, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since I’m here I’ll address the other points:

“Because he has not delivered in the post-season (lost like nine in a row, with a horrible save percentage of .894)?”

This is a bad stretch that happened to occur in the playoffs, and about half those games the Habs in general were putrid. I’m not a big believer in the concept of “post-season delivery” in any case; it’s just a matter of timing, not of ability. To whit — Datsyuk was one guy who was considered to be a failure in this regard. Doesn’t come up much anymore, strangely.

“Because he never regained the shape and confidence of his rookie season after his injury midway through the season 08/09?”

While that’s true to an extent, it was nevertheless unrealistic to expect him to be a .920 goalie for his entire career. That would’ve made a shoo-in Hall-of-Famer of him and into best-of-all-time discussion.

The real problem with Price is unrealistic expectations — combined with Halak having a career season last year. He’s fine in absolute terms, and more than that if his age is taken in consideration. But he’s being held up to unrealistic standards of performance.

by MathMan on Sep 1, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

This has been the problem since Day 1.

The fact that the majority of fans don’t care to reference what Miller, Ward, Fleury etc were doing at 23 is typical of somebody who doesn’t want to discredit their own opinion.

Hasek, Roy, Belfour all suffered peaks and valleys in their SV%. Nobody cares.

This is why Tim Thomas gets a $5M/4 year deal at the age of 35 and Luongo gets traded for Mark Parrish and Oleg Kvasha.

by Chris Boyle on Sep 1, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just to set the record straight, I never said that Price was ruined or would not become a top notch goalie. I still believe his development was mismanaged (I know I’m an island on this point) but I also stated that he should become a stellar goalie down the road and hopefully (along with some of the other kids on this list) help us win a Cup in a few years.

Don’t take this the wrong way, but I sometimes wish Hamilton had lost to Hershey. It would have make Price’s world so much easier.

by 24 Cups on Sep 1, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re both right you know Robert. in fact you all are.

It is one thing to be sceptical of Price as an NHL goalie and another entirely to be sceptical of him as a player to centre a franchise around.

Based on stats alone, even if they aren’t what he had us dreaming of in 2007, he is already an NHL goalie and will continue to be thanks to his size, athleticism and quick feet.

But I see merit to what SurabayaJ said when I think of Carey Price as a franchise cornerstone. He has question marks in this line of questioning for all those reasons that have been stated. No amount of goal support analysis can change that (incidentally goal support doesn’t come up too much when we pull his 2007-08 numbers does it?).

by Topham on Sep 1, 2010 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m thinking goal support numbers in 2007-2008 don’t come up for two reasons:
- he was having a legitimately great season
- the people who argue his side don’t view W-L as particularly meaningful either way, so see no need to persuade anyone that Price was responsible for his W-L record in that season.

by MathMan on Sep 1, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still, 41 games, 124 GF, that’s more than 3 goals a game, Seems like a lot.

The people who don’t like W-L sure bring up career record a lot and that has wins aand losses in it. (You posted them above…)

I wonder if we don’t hear about 2007-08 happenings for the same reason Halak pushers never mentioned increased goal support for their goalie. Because it didn’t suit the argument…

by Topham on Sep 2, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

In context, Huet had 136 GF in 39 games. Contrast that to Halak and Price’s numbers in 2010. There was no argument because it wasn’t an argument.

W/L are irrelevant when judging a goaltender.

I guess Michael Leighton who was 19-39-10 on a bunch of mediocre teams and was traded to Philly and almost matched his career wins with a 16-5-2 record just got better?

Wins are a direct reflection of their team and the support they receive from that team.

Huet got better goal support than Price, Halak had almost 3/4 of a goal per game more than Price. Huge difference, end of parallel.

by Chris Boyle on Sep 2, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

The 2007-2008 was an offensive powerhouse. Missed being the top team in GF by one measly goal. Too bad it was a lot of making shots on the PP.

by MathMan on Sep 2, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Halak trade

Bruce, your comment on the Halak trade is interesting.

While you’re right about the return on the trade looking pretty good when you consider rank of prospects, I consider it Halak for Eller at this point. Everything swings on that. Especially given we already had a supposed hard hitting Hitmen alum vying for the very spot the overager Schultz will be…

by Topham on Sep 1, 2010 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s true, Schultz at #20 isn’t a big bonus. But the fact that Eller is #3 and 4 years Halak’s junior has to be pretty comforting. What would Halak have been? #1? #2? #3? Probably ahead of Eller in our estimation, but not by a lot, and likely based heavily on his high end performance last year.

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by Bruce Peter on Sep 1, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

A quick point about Eller. Any realistic Hab fan knew that one of the goalies was going to be traded this summer. It was the logical thing to do in terms of maximizing assets.

In a weak goalie market, I’m quite happy with trading a guy who was drafted in the bottom 15 of his draft year for a player who went in the top 15 of his draft year. We also got a player who should be able to play a significant role for the Habs within another two years.

by 24 Cups on Sep 1, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d have had Halak a long way ahead of Eller. In the same way I see Subban and Price a long way ahead.

It’s misleading to think that number three in the list means high quality prospect. Remember how sceptical everyone is about Pouliot? He’s #4…

by Topham on Sep 2, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would you have had Halak on this list way ahead of Eller when he was 21, 22, 23 and 24?

That is the question. When Eller is 25 years old maybe you will tell me you would have listed him among the elite, two levels above with Subban and Price.

Halak is not even eligible for this list.

by Chris Boyle on Sep 2, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I don’t see it as a huge gap. Significant, yes, but not insurmountable. I don’t see Pouliot as a future All-Star, but to some degree I see that potential in Eller, as I do with Subban and Price. With Subban and Price, it’s a higher expectation.

I’d have Halak above Eller, but I don’t think it’s out of line to suggest he could become a better player than Halak.

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by Bruce Peter on Sep 3, 2010 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Praise for PK

As time goes by and the media reports back on him as being the next great hope for the franchise, is anyone else having the same thought as I am? That Subban is this generation’s Guy Lafleur?

by ol'drrty on Sep 1, 2010 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

On some level I’m a bit worried about PK. Tell me if this sounds familiar:

1- rookie does well in limited action
2- rookie gets ridiculous expectations (I’ve had people tell me the Habs could trade Markov because they have him)
3- rookie plays excellent rookie hockey that doesn’t match ridiculous expectations
4- rookie gets in trouble with coach because of playstyle (seriously - a high-risk, high-tempo skating offensive D-man with an ultra-defensive, ultra-conservative coach with an history of favoring vets? Isn’t that trouble waiting to happen?)
5
fanbase sours on rookie
6- rookie gets traded for less than his value
7- rookie is wildly successful elsewhere.

More seriously I don’t think it will go this far. But I would not be surprised to see Subban spend time on the bench, in the pressbox, even in Hamilton, in part because he is ultimately a rookie, and in part because of #4 above. Those two’s styles seem to absolutely not mesh and I would be hard-pressed to think of a worse fit for Martin than PK Subban, or vice-versa. It’ll be interesting to see how that develops…

by MathMan on Sep 1, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s especially true for our goalies. Luckily, it seems the team has gained the mysterious ability to pull a pretty darn good goalie out of it’s rear end once every three years.

stares expectantly at Robert Mayer

by Olivier on Sep 2, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s because people still believe that Patrick Roy won the 86 and 93 Cups all by himself. Therefore they are comparing every goaltender that arrives in Montreal based on that narrative.

It is an impossible standard to live up to because it is not true. As long as fans think a goaltender should stop everything regardless of the team in front of him, then they will continue to be disappointed.

by Chris Boyle on Sep 2, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Those are all good for sure and I can see them being applied to most of the heralded rookies out there this season (Hall, Eberle, Sequin and PK) except for maybe the last two. I can see the fanbase souring on him if things do not go well but they do that everyone, don’t they? I would feel better for his development had Robinson’s calls be answered but I think that he is going to turn out fine. There may be some stretches where he sits on the bench but really who will be on the power play with Markov possibly out for the start of the season? Hamrlik? That scares me, a lot! I think that if he gets off to a good start, the points start adding up, is partnered with someone on defense that can hide some of the mistakes that he will make then Martin will have no choice but to play him. How much longer is the shelf life for Martin anyways? I see him being possibly gone at the end of the season.

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