The Incomparable Big Three
Earlier this week, I was asked a simple question by EOTP friend Joe Pelletier, on who I thought was the best defenseman of the Big Three. Joe was eliciting opinions from a variety of Habs' sites for an article at Greatest Hockey Legends, and his question spurred an entire article of mine on the subject. I also asked the crew at this site to weight in, and all of Chris, Kevin, Francis and Bruce ranked Robinson, Savard and Lapointe, 1-2-3 in that order. Check out Joe's piece and the opinions he solicited and have a look at this article from March of 1972, when the Canadiens players rescued coach Scotty Bowman and others in a St. Louis motel fire.
Three of the Canadiens greatest defensemen in team history were collectively known in the 1970's as The Big Three.
Yup, capital letters and all!
The moniker was an obvious one, as these three blueliners were a complete package of skill and gamesmanship. It seemed ridiculous almost, that one team could own so much talent on the backline.
Among the many assets the Canadiens had in that decade, it was often The Big Three who were singled out by opposing players and coaches for the reasons as to the Habs powerhouse teams. Some nights, it seemed these three players all logged upwards of thirty minutes in a given game, still looking like they had energy left for overtime at the end of sixty minutes.



Le Senateur
Serge Savard was the first to arrive on the Canadiens scene, playing a pair of games in 1966-67. He had been in the Montreal system for close to five years by that time, originally being signed to a C-Form as a forward.
Unbelievably, Montreal almost lost the rights to Savard at one point. Sometime around when he was converted to a defensemen in with the Junior Canadiens, certain persons in the organization became momentarily less impressed with his skills and he was left off the Habs protected list.
Approached by a scout from the Red Wings organization, Savard was informed of his status, and surprised and panicked, checked it out with Montreal to see if this was true. It was realized an error was made, and the Canadiens quickley re-added Savard's name. In later years, Savard was explained that due to his less than stellar play at one point, he was simply forgotten by the club.
Imagine now if the anchor of eight Stanley Cup championchips had gotten away due to a bureacratic snafu. I mean, this is no Francois Beauchemin!
Two full seasons in with Montreal, Savard became the second Conn Smythe Trophy winner in team history in 1969.
In 1972, Savard was a member of Team Canada for the Summit Series. In the five games he appeared in, Canada's record was four wins and a tie, losing the three Savard did not play in.
Perhaps that is testament to Le Senateur's greatest asset, a calming presence that often spread its way to teammates. Sturdy and dependable with a strong vision of the unfolding game, Savard was equally adept leading a rush or reading the one coming at him. Wracking up his fair share of points, he was seldom caught out of position. As a defender, he was never known as a thundering bodychecker, yet he was a miserable proposition to try to get around.
Fans who recall Savard's first steps have long maintainted that a pair of serious leg injuries early in his career actually robbed him of some speed and mobility in his position. It's hard to fathom that he could have been even better than he was.
Savard went on to play a full 14 seasons with the Canadiens and participated in 8 Stanley Cup wins.
Pointu Guy Lapointe played his first game with Montreal in the 1968-69 season, becoming a regular contributor in 1970-71 when he contributed 15 goals as a rookie defenseman, a record at the time. The player known as Pointu came into the Canadiens as a bit of a wild horse, an untamed thoroughbred of limitless offensive skill and potential. A fleetfooted skater with a blistering shot, Lapointe tended to stray at times defensively, often opting for crunching hits rather than smarter plays. This lead to undisciplined habits and high penalty minute totals, but as time passed, he was groomed into the Canadiens method of schooling and developed rather quickly from there. With experience, Lapointe became a more poised blueliner, often in pairing with Savard. Learning to hang back on the rush, if not leading it himself, he often jumped into the play as an invisible fifth man, ghostly emerging from the shadows to unleashed a devastating boomer. His quick takeoff speed made him a transition specialist able to spot an opening hole before it closed. A patented Lapointe play would see him spotting an opening, dashing to the blueline to feed a breaking player, and then taking part in the two on he his astuteness created.
Blessed with all kinds of talent surrending him, it was natural that Lapointe's gifts were best shown on the powerplay. A threat at anytime by his devastating shot, Guy smartly didn't overuse the weapon uneccessarily. He would help control the play, moving the puck to the best option, and waiting just long enough to be forgotten in the heat of action to step in and fire away.
Lapointe never won any major awards in his 12 year career with Montreal, but he did score in double digits for nine sucessive seasons. He was at the peak of his prowess between 1973 and 1977, when he came within one goal of having four 20 goal campaigns in five years. His best year offensively was 1974-75 in which he tallied 28 goals, still a team record.
Big Bird
In 1971, with their fourth choice, twentieth overall in the Amateur Draft, the Canadiens selected Larry Robinson, a gangling and somewhat awkward defenseman from the Kitchener Rangers of the OHL. Lanky and rawboned, many considered Robinson to be a project of sorts, a defenseman who would need some nurturing and time to develop to full potential.
Like Savard, Robinson was a former forward, converted to the blueline at a young age due to his size and height. Sent to the Nova Scotia Voyageurs, Robinson was tutored by aging veteran Noel Price, and within a season and a half was called up to Montreal for good.
As befits many a farmboy, Robinson owned a threatening physique, but the potential to use it was diminished by a shy and polite demeanor. While with Nova Scotia, coach Al McNeil patiently waited for Robinson to come around, finally sitting him for a game to give the player pause to think. At 6'4'', and 225 pounds, Robinson was the asked by the coach what his physical dimensions were. Upon reply, Larry was then asked, "So when are you going to start using it?"
Robinson seemed to seize the message, using his size and becoming an on ice presence. A few rounds of putting up dukes, combined with punishing hits created for him a space in which his full game would develop. When these traits became part of the Robinson package, an injury to Jacques Laperierre opened the door for him in Montreal. Eager to make good on a first impression, Larry never returned to the East Coast again.
Once in the NHL, Robinson progressed, steadily employing the same lessons learned in the AHL. Gradually, the league acquainted themselves with savvy defenseman of good vision, owning a policeman's attributes and a mean streak displayed occasionally enough to make tough guys think twice.
As it had evolved in the lower rung, Robinson was now the benefactor of great space and time, only with the Canadiens, he was blessed with an incredibly talented supporting cast to his game. Surprisingly, or perhaps not, the once gangling and awkward defender bloomed into an offensive powerhouse on the blueline. His style and the compatibility of newfound assuredness made it so that he blended perfectly well with the attributes of Savard and Lapointe before him.
Robinson went on to become the most decorated member of the trio, winning two Norris trophies as the leagues best blueliner, as well as a Conn Smythe Trophy in 1978. Over his career, the Big Bird was an incredible plus +730.
The Big Three were essentially born nearing Robinson's third year. In all, they played a full eight seasons together and have a combined 20 Stanley Cups wins in their careers.
All three have had their jersey numbers taken out of Canadiens' circulation, but in Lapointe case, his number five went to the rafters in honour of Bernie Boom Boom Geoffrion. There are many Canadiens' fans who feel Lapointe deserves the same treatment.
The Big Three are best remembered collectively by many, likely due to the fact that no NHL team before or since can ever boast of such blueline talent and artilliary. It's unlikely any fan will ever see a similar lineup of Hall of Famers all on one club again.
Pick just one? Yeah, right!
Back during their prime years, I recall being asked by a fellow fan, which of the three was the best.
It was tough to answer then, as it is now.
The way the question was put to me was in hypothetical terms, such as a draft scenario with Canadiens holding the first overall pick and all of The Big Three being available prospects at that imaginary time.
Without the benefit of hindsight, who would you choose between the lanky and raw Robinson, the wild but promising Lapointe, or the composed Savard?
It's tough to call isn't it?
Think of L.A. Kings' Drew Doughty as Savard, commanding ray Bourque-like respect, the Habs' P.K. Subban as Lapointe, given Sheldon Souray's shot, and a young and green Chris Pronger as Robinson, with a dash of Jay Bowmeester hesitance.
It doesn't help much, does it?
I'm tempted to go with Robinson, that is until hindsight reminds that Savard's ways greatly benefitted and settled down both Lapointe and Robinson when they were newcomers.
Without hindsight, I'm going with the offensively talented Lapointe, being he would be the rarer bird of the three as an offensive componant.
All views considered, I'm back at Robinson now. Don't ask me again - I might just change my mind every ten minutes.
The best thing about The Big Three in Montreal?
The Habs never had to decide!
Photos for this post are courtesy of the Montreal Canadiens historical website players section. Check it out!
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Bird is the Word...
If you factor in longevity and durability then it would have to be Robinson. Pointu was brilliant but injury prone late in his career(even in the cup winning years of 78 and 79). Robinson was still a force on the blue line throughout the 80s. He was an important part of the cup winner in 86(along with another “old-timer” Bob Gainey). I personally remember being at game three of the 86 conference finals at Madison Square Garden versus the Rangers. Most people remember Patrick Roy’s magnificent performance(well deserved) but I recall Larry Robinson diving and blocking several shots during the third period and in overtime. That’s the type of player he was. Selfless and willing to do anything for the team. He truly was one of the greatest defensemen ever!
by Montcalm's Revenge on Aug 20, 2010 9:15 AM EDT reply actions
Like I said in our e-mail
"It is not often you get an offensive defenseman who can shutdown the other teams top offensive players as well as moonlight as the Heavyweight Champion of the NHL."
Robinson possessed something Savard and Lapointe didn’t and that was the ability to beat the snot out of individuals so decisively that nobody took liberties with the star laden lineup. He didn’t just beat up Schultz, he destroyed him.
I still remember Louis Sleigher running Patrick Roy in 86 and before Roy had hit the ice Robinson had dusted off Sleigher putting an end to that Bruin strategy.
When you weigh all the individual assets they possessed none of them approached Robinson’s unique blend of size, skill, ass kicking ability and moustache.
It is no coincidence that when the moustache came off his game declined!
Robinson
Big Bird has always been my favourite Hab. His book “For the Defense” is a must read for any fan.
by hab a good time on Aug 20, 2010 11:51 AM EDT reply actions
looking for stats repository
Just finished reading “Robinson for the Defence” and enjoyed it. I usually read player biopics with an eye to descriptive narrative. Robinson for the most part does a decent job of relaying his experience and giving us a perspective on what such moments of triumph might be like.
I would appreciate it if anyone can recommend a reliable and friendly NHL Stats site. I’m not finding nhl.com intuitive to search, and in fact am currently combing through stats leaders in 87-88 season to find Robinson. He was injured playing polo in the off season but he returned to action November 18th, 1987 of that season, a home game against the Islanders. How was he that season, statistically.?I know that the Habs didn’t get out of their division, losing 4-1 to the Bruins after (according to Robinson) holding on against Hartford, and Jean Perron was fired for it.
Truth be told, this kind of info would help me get perspective on Retro Mikey over at HI/O who said Price might take up Polo, and “We all know what happened to Robinson….” I realized maybe I didn’t “know”. In his book Robinson seemed to think he emerged relatively unscathed and even goes on to say that in 88-89 he had the kind of season “he knew he could” and a similar playoffs. They lost in the final to Calgary and Robinson not having what he considered a fair contract from Savard signs with L.A. “I get to play with Gretzky”.
I don’t imagine that Mr. Robinson at 36/37 was still the robust and deadly player of his youth (apparently he was averaging 010-15 under Perron and the same under Burns until Burns adopted a five man defensive unit). His being sent on a vacation for 4 days in Florida by Burns in the second half of the season is an indication his minutes were being managed. But with Chelios a Norris Trophy winner, Ludwig and Svoboda stopping shooters from getting good looks at Patrick Roy and Brian Hayward (Jennings Trophy)— I don’t think it’s too hard to decide to accomodate but manage his elder blue line general.
So I’m back to my original question, “Was the Polo accident detrimental to his performance?”
Boyle, you’re a stats guy and I know Mathman will drop by soon— where’s a good place to get numbers?
Oops
Posted too soon, and didn’t provide all context. Robinson the year before he was traded (and the year after his return from injury) also had Guy Carbonneau (Selke), Roy (Vezina) and Burns— who Robinson praises in his book— won the Jack Adams for Coach of the Year.
Jesus, I know it’s nothing compared to the 4 and 5 cup dynasties, but that’s a hell of a team in 88-89, and I’m old enough to be able to remember (It will never, ever be scrubbed out of my mind) Lanny McDonald polishing the cup with the brillo pad on his upper lip.
okay, found it finally
Larry Robinson stats
86-87 87-88 88-89 89-90 90-91
(Injured Sumer of 87) (With the Kings)
GP 70 53 74 64 62
Goals: 13 6 4 7 1
Assists: 37 34 26 32 22
+/- 24 26 23 7 22
P.I.M: 44 30 22 34 16
P.P. 6 2 0 1 0
G.W.G: 3 1 0 1 0
Pts. 50 40 30 39 23
Scoring Race: 123 156 221 168 263
We see a decline in production from his 86 season onwards, but how much of that is age, and how much his Polo injury?
By the way, Randy Cunneyworth (is he the new face in Hamilton?) did quite well in the scoring races these years (Gretzky and Mario were the show to watch though, Hull too, before some Hull fan gets upset).
Good article except for this comment about Lapointe: “His best year offensively was 1974-75 in which he tallied 29 goals, still a team record.”
There are two things wrong with that statement. First, Lapointe only scored 28 goals (the Habs record for a defenceman), not 29. Secondly, 74-75 wasn’t Lapointe’s best offensive year, it was only his best goal scoring season, but he only scored 47 assists to go along with those 28 goals, giving him 75 points in 80 games.
Lapointe’s best offensive season was 76-77, when he scored 25 goals and 51 assists for 76 points in 77 games.
For an article like this, you really should check your facts before posting them.
Wow! A WHOLE POINT? What a ghastly mistake by the author… LOL!
by Montcalm's Revenge on Aug 20, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
DING DING DING
We have a winner for most pompous non contributing post of the day!
Excellent post. And I quite agree with your comparison of P.K. with Lapointe: Right on. I’ve thought this almost since the day I first saw P.K. in the bleu-blanc-rouge.
I greatly admire all three, but, if pressed, I’d think I’d choose Savard. I remember Mark Mulvoy of Sports Illustrated writing way back in 1970 that it was, above all, Savard’s season-ending injury that brought down the mighty Habs. Savard was, Mulvoy wrote, the Canadiens’ best player. Well, that was on a team that still counted Béliveau, Henri Richard, Cournoyer, Lemaire, J.C. Tremblay, Jacques Laperrière, Vachon, and etc etc etc. And that, apparently, was not just Mulvoy’s or SI’s, but the general view at the time.
Or, well, just watch Savard in the great New Year’s Eve game against the Soviets on DVD—or, again, against the Bruins in the exciting, come from behind Game 7 of the 1979 Semis, also on DVD.
But I admired them all. So, like you, Robert, perhaps tomorrow I’ll have a different opinion!
My vote goes to Savard
The game 7 against the Bruins, early in OT of all the players the Bruins had, Stan Jonathan faked a flailing Dryden down and out and shot towards the empty net. Savard skates across the crease, catches the puck in his glove, drops it down and skates it out as if there was nothing to it.
Middleton comes down one-on-one, afvantage Savard. Calmly, he strips him of the puck and pushes it forward towards Houle, Tremblay and Lambert go on to finish the Bruins. The total coolness package always impressed me. Plus, he chipped in big goals once in awhile when needed.
Robinson may have been the best overall, but I think he learned alot from playing with Savard. I always thought of Robinson as the next Savard when he was paired up with the 18 year old Svoboda. I named him Big Daddy from that point on, playing a role that Savard had played with him.
But, to give LaPointe his due, I believe Dryden described him as at times the second best defensemen in the league besides Orr. His bursts of energy could take over games and his enthusiasm would wake up his sometimes bored teammates.
Great assessments of all three David!
I’ll likely never make my mind up totally, but what ridiculous with all the merit Robinson gets, is that could it be the other two are actually underrated?
It’s hard to be underrated when you are a Hall of Famer.
Individual moments can be picked out to nominate all of them for greatness. Individual accomplishments can also do the same things.
Comparing Savard’s leadership in 1979 to Robinson is unfair for the Big Bird. How influential in the dressing room was Savard in 1970 with an established hierarchy of stars like Beliveau, Richard etc. Dressing rooms have a pecking order and when the team looked to Savard for leadership he was there. In the mid 80s when Robinson and Gainey held those positions of leadership and influence, they lead the team to two conference finals, a Stanley Cup and a Stanley Cup final loss with a young inexperienced lineup.
Savard may have been regarded as the best player on the 1970 team, but the pre-1970 player is not the one who we are comparing. That Serge Savard is a what-if and using player quotes to establish greatness is misleading in regards to what this argument asks.
The only reason I ranked Robinson ahead of those two was because during their time together the NHL was a goon fest and having the baddest motherf@*#er in the NHL on your team was a HUGE deal. Savard was a calming influence on the ice and in the dressing room, but how much more courage did the Habs muster knowing that Big Bird would reduce the liberties taken with them on the ice?
It is a circular discussion, but outside of some sort of 2010 style metrics based on zone starts, shots created, prevented etc that favoured Savard by a large margin, I will continue to say the best of the big three was Larry Robinson.
Chris, I beg to differ. I’d say Habs players know more than you and I.
It’s not a comparison, but a weighing of words, testimonials, and fact..
I cannot say who was best, but fact cannot separate that Savard was injured in the season the Habs missed the playoffs in 1970, and that Team Canada was 4-1 with him in the lineup in 1972.
Just saying….

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