The Goods on Dominic Moore, Canadiens New Acquisition
by Robert L on Feb 11, 2010 8:55 PM EST
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According to the team's official site, Canadiens GM Pierre Gauthier has just pulled the trigger on his first trade with Montreal, acquiring center Dominic Moore from the Florida Panthers for a second round draft choice in 2011.
The 6 foot, 198 lb Moore has appeared in 48 games for Florida this season, notching a respectable 9 goals and eight assists. The Sarnia, Ontario native has previously played with Buffalo, Toronto, Minnesota, Pittsburgh and the New York Rangers posting 43-74-117 totals in 353 games
It may have been with the Rangers in 2005-06 that Moore, then a rookie, left his biggest impression on Canadiens fans, scoring his first three career goals against the Habs in two games, and adding an assist in the third in October 2005.
October 6, October 29, October 31, 2005-06
It hurriedly added to Moore's reputation as a Hab killer, as in his very first NHL game on November 1, 2003, he registered 3 assists against the same Canadiens in Montreal.
Moore currently earns $1.1M and is a UFA next season.
The trade and the callup of defenseman P.K. Subban from the Hamilton Bulldogs will sure ignite rumour in Montreal that Gauthier is working on something larger.
Here are Moore's statistics from Hockey Reference and bio from Legends of Hockey.
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He’ll be wearing #42 apparently. No one has wore that since Perezhogin.
Gauthier will definitely be getting at least another 2nd rounder when he deals a goalie this offseason, so I guess he felt he could part with one for some help today. Moore’s best hockey has been with the Rangers and Toronto, so maybe he’s an Original Six kind of guy.
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Great Faceoff Man
Moore has quietly been one of the better 3rd/4th line faceoff men in the league, even back to his Penguins days.
He has a win/loss record of 55.8% this season (54.1 % last season).
By comparison, the Canadiens centres that have taken the most faceoffs, Scott Gomez, Glen Metropolit, Tomas Plekanec and Maxim Lapierre, have win loss percentages of 50.6, 50.4, 48.0 and 47.2 respectively.
As Mike Boone said today, he’s an upgrade on Metropolit, who could be move, yet again.
Subban is likely just up as Gorges and Markov had therapy days. By Sunday he could be back down in Hamilton.
Great pickup with the faceoff percentage. Makes a lot of sense…even more if other moves are brewing.
Dumb question, are we wasting callup options with PK that could be useful later if there isn’t a trade brewing. Why call up a d-man when Weber is already available?
He is progressing nicely, please tell me we aren’t gonna rush another kid to the NHL!
by blockersave93 on Feb 11, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
Weber is already with the Swiss Olympic team. They had a pre-Olympic game today.
by yathehabsrule on Feb 11, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
They called up Subban to possibly be a healthy scratch… the roster freeze takes place before the Friday game and so now they have 21 players just in case someone gets hurt in the first game.
A cup of coffee for Subban is a reward for progress. They aren’t rushing him, he may not even play. And Carle is out for the year (he was the first callup option) plus Weber is now with his Olympic teammates (second option).
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Thanks for the Carle update, was wondering why this occurred.
Goofy thing with roster freeze since there are games on Friday night and Saturday.
by blockersave93 on Feb 12, 2010 7:25 AM EST up reply actions
Frolov
Marc de Foy is reporting that Don Meehan (Frolov’s agent) was just informed that his player will be traded by tomorrow at the deadline. Interesting………..
Great Pickup
Great on the faceoffs, as many have mentioned already, and always throws in the extra effort. I’m trying to figure how we’ll fit him in. Metro to the wing, with Moen? That’d be a killer third/fourth line.
This deal is a joke. Gauthier stated that he would not be a seller or a buyer but rather a builder. So what is his first move? He gives up a 2nd round pick (could be a Subban, Kristo, Lats, Lapierre) for a fringe hockey player that nobody signed before the season started. I don’t mean to run Moore into the ground, but it’s just that we really seem to have overpaid on this transaction. God help us if the laffs let Pony go for a 2nd rounder. I also wonder what a Raffi Torres might bring. Mueller in Phoenix.
Much is being made of Moore’s face-off prowess. But what about the other side of the coin? 7.3M doesn’t bring a guy who can win face-offs? Pleks is our star player but can’t shine in the circle? Metro has been around forever but hasn’t mastered this basic skill? Laps is being trained as a secondary checking centre who kills penalties but can’t help out with puck possession?
I’m sure that Moore will help us out in the short term. The timing of this deal was obviously tied in to the home and away tilt with Philly. As well as the very tough road trip to California. It will help us finish 7th or 8th and add another 4-6M of playoff coin to the Molson till. Just don’t cry in your beer when we are sitting there in 2011 without a 2nd round pick.
My gut tells me that it’s the status quo after Gainey passes the torch to Gauthier. Guess what boys? The torch isn’t lit.
It’s still the SOS with Montreal as far as I’m concerned.
At least Moore is a quality bottom-six sort of guy. Mueller’s been struggling for a damned long while, to the point where they’re willing to trade him to Edmonton for one of their 27 struggling young shrimps, Andrew Cogliano.
As for Torres, Montreal doesn’t need his consistency issues. Maybe he’s changed in Columbus, but in Edmonton, anyway, he’d frequently put together a string of five or ten games where he was Mark Messier followed by a string of ten or fifteen where he looked lost.
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I like the deal for playoff grit and depth’s sake. Sometimes certain teams go farther in the post season only because of how deep the fourth line is. It’s a difference maker the longer the playoffs go on. And Moore might not just be a short term solution. I see him replacing Metropolit next year, at the same price.
As per the draft picks, anything between a second and seventh rounder is easily recouped no sweat.
There are now 7 picks per draft, and while the Canadiens have dealt many picks over the last five seasons, they have also restocked them. Over the course of those five seasons, the Canadiens have had five first rounders, five second rounders, five thirds, etc….essentially an average of one player per round over the past five seasons.
Two seasons ago, a player was sacrificed for a second rounder, and the deal is still maligned. Montreal finished first overall in the East that season. Now it adds a player while hoping to qualify, and I see it being critiqued.
Say what you will, but that 4 to 6M of playoff money is crucial to a team’s bottom line. Consider the panicky nature of Leafs’ brass, in a the midst of five seasons out of the dance. That money allows the Habs to spend to the cap in succeeding years…and they’ll need the cash!
BTW
Habs had two 2nd round draft picks in 2011. It may not read that way now, but they’ll have the 50th overall pick when they don’t sign Bob’s 2006 first round bust, David Fischer. The only compensation picks that exist anymore are when you don’t sign your first round draft picks. You get awarded the same pick, but in the second round. Fischer was the 20th pick in the first round, so the Habs will get the 20th pick in the second round (and there will at least be 31 picks that year, no one loses their pick).
And yeah, there is no point to signing Fischer, he’s been pretty pedestrian and you can find D with similar upside playing overage seasons in major junior.
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I don't get it
I agree with the post above, it is the status-quo after Gainey. It looks like nothing much is going to change in the Gauthier era. Since the last cup, management has done nothing but bring in a bunch of castaways only to wonder why it hasn’t worked out. Sure the bulk of Moore’s scoring has been against the Habs, maybe that’s why they brought him in, so he wouldn’t score against them anymore? I feel a second round pick is too high a price for this 30 year old(29 1/2). Gainey has stepped down and the unlit torch has been passed onto Gainey Jr. The only move coming is for Metropolit to change camp, so other than to take the draws, Moore isn’t much of an upgrade. There must be a reason this guy has played on so many teams. I really miss a guy like Begin when trades like this come along.
Those of you who think you know everything just annoy those of us who do!!
One deal and four days after the Gainey regime ends, Gauthier’s reign is already being assessed?
Status qo?
Gauthier has been part of the Canadiens outllook for six years now.
Exactly my point – its still the Gainey era. I think he did a decent job considering the mess he inherited. I believe most of the moves he made this past year were for the best and I liked him as a player and as GM. I just wish he had cleaned house about three years sooner.
Those of you who think you know everything just annoy those of us who do!!
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