Disastrous Weekend Paints A Gloomy Playoff Picture For Habs
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that after losing to both the Senators and Rangers the Canadiens have seriously compromised their chances of earning a playoff spot. The tangle of teams vying for position and the schedule, combined with the way the team has played this season makes it highly unlikely that they will be playing hockey beyond April 10. Since the 2004-05 lockout and the awarding of points for shootout losses, no Eastern Conference club has qualified for the post season with less than 92 points. The Canadiens on three of those five occasions have been in the position of making it in by the skin of their teeth. In 2008-09, they finished eighth with 93 points, winning a deadlock with the Florida Panthers, who owned the exact same record, by virtue of a better record against. The Canadiens finished first in 2007-08, and played the eighth place Boston Bruins, who had 94 points that season. In 2006-07, Montreal lost the final game of the season to Toronto, and both teams were surpassed by the Islanders on the last afternoon on the campaign. The Islanders had 92 points and Montreal finished tenth, one point behind the Maple Leafs. In 2005-06, the Canadiens, with 93 points, finished seventh, and played the Carolina Hurricanes in round one. The eight place team that season were the Tampa Bay Lightning with 92 points.
Each season, James Mirtle of the Globe and Mail posts his playoffs push article on how many points it would take for team to reach the eighth and final position. This season, Mirtle has set the bar at 89 points in the East, based on the tangle of teams in the mix, remainder of games, and number of possible points left available.
For the Canadiens to meet that bar, they would need to put up a 19-12-1 record, meaning they need to earn 39 of a possible 64 points, or a .609 winning percentage for a team with trouble reaching over the games above .500. Teams in a similar predicament for the four final spots include the Rangers (18-15-0), Senators (18-14-1), Flyers (20-15-0), Thrashers (20-15-0), Islanders (19-14-1), Panthers (20-13-1) and Tampa (21-13-1). Before considering that Montreal has as good a chance as any other of the seven teams listed, here is how the Canadiens fared in the first 50 and final 32 games over the past four seasons: 2005-06: 23-21-6 / 19-10-3 2006-07: 27-18-5 / 15-16-1 2007-08: 27-15-8 / 20-10-2 2008-09: 28-16-6 / 13-14-5
The Canadiens opponants for the remainder of this season are as follows, road games in CAPS: Blues, DEVILS, Rangers, PANTHERS, LIGHTNING, SENATORS, Canucks, BRUINS, Penguins, Bruins, Capitals, FLYERS, Flyers.....Olympic Break......BRUINS, SHARKS, KINGS, DUCKS, Lightning, Oilers, Bruins, RANGERS, MAPLE LEAFS, Senators, SABRES, Panthers, Devils, Hurricanes, FLYERS, Sabres, ISLANDERS, HURRICANES, Maple Leafs. Here is a breakdown of facts for the final stretch. 16 home games, 16 on the road 18 of 32 games against teams currently in a playoff position, not including three against Flyers 15 of 32 games against teams currently ranked between 5th and 13th in the East 15 of 32 games against teams currently ranked between higher than the Canadiens in the East Of the 19 different upcoming opponents, six are from the Western Conference. The Canadiens have yet to play the Blues, Sharks, Kings and Ducks, but have lost to both the Oilers and Canucks. The remaining 29 games are against 13 of 14 Eastern Conference teams, eight of which are currently above the Canadiens in the standing and five of which are below them in the standings. Atlanta is the one team the Canadiens have finished the four game season series with. Against the top eight teams, the Canadiens record is 9-14 Capitals (1-2), Devils (0-2), Sabres (1-3), Penguins (0-3), Bruins (2-0), Senators (1-3), Rangers (1-1), Islanders (3-0) Against the bottom five teams, the Canadiens record is 9-2 Panthers (2-0), Lightning (1-1), Hurricanes (2-0), Maple Leafs (3-1), Flyers (1-0) Draw your own conclusions, but it looks grim folks.
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The Ranger Game
Canadiens looked tired at times, uninterested at other times. Unprepared too. I was frankly shocked by the overall team performance. Down here in the Hudson Valley, I get to see a lot of Rangers, Islanders and Devils games on television. Despite the recent blanking, the Devils are clearly the class of that lot. And, of course, they have a great, great goalie in Brodeur. Unprepared? Never. They are superbly coached.
Why, oh, why, didn’t Gainey hire Jacques Lemaire when he could have?
Overrated team
My preseason prediction of our overrated Habs to finish in 10th place in the Eastern Conference is about to become a reality as the season dwindles down.
Why can’t other Habs fans see we are not a playoff team with this roster Bob Gainey tried to assemble?
Dark years are ahead for our once proud franchise.
We will win the Cup only with a mature Carey Price in the nets
Skill yes, but not big enough!
We just are not big and strong enough down the stretch as well. Bigger teams are going to grind us down. We have too many small players on this team with high end salaries, some have got to go!
If we do make the playoffs, is everyone happy at another first round exit?
I, certainly am not and ask yourself if Bobby has been successful as a GM in his tenure in Montreal.
Somehow, I see Carbo laughing at Bobby and where the team is heading.
We will win the Cup only with a mature Carey Price in the nets
The size issue is seriously overstated. Has there been, in recent memory, a playoff series that the Habs have lost because they were too small? (And to head off what someone will be bound to say, no, Philly most decidedly wasn’t one, it was decided on finish and goaltending because the Habs otherwise dominated.)
As for Gainey being successful, well, one only needs to have a look at the year-over-year roster under Gainey’s tenure to see constant improvement, so I would call him relatively successful. He didn’t start with much and has to work with possibly the worst hockey city on the planet from a roster-building standpoint — terrible taxes, terrible weather, terrible media, and, even though everyone is loathe to admit it, terrible fans. To get the constant improvement he’s led the team through is pretty praiseworthy.
I totally agree with you about the size issue. BTW: It was a big guy (Paul Mara) who let Callahan score an easy tip-in to bring the Rangers back in the game on sunday.
Sorry, I don’ buy what you’re saying about Bob Gainey, you are a very young optimistic Habs fan like others.
See you after the season when the Molson brothers will have a new GM to take over from Gainey.
Then, I will be an optimistic Habs fan like you and others and enjoy watching a new look team fielded on the ice with big players up front and skilled DMen to compliment Halak.
We will win the Cup only with a mature Carey Price in the nets
You have absolutely no idea how old I am or what my outlook is. I could say that you’re clearly a Gainey hater who doesn’t live with the times and doesn’t have a clue how a hockey team is built. For that matter, I could also claim that you’re very young, too. That would have the same validity as your claim about me: none. A shaky basis to assert the superiority of your opinions, to say the least.
If anything, I do think the optimist here is you if you think that a contending team can be built so quickly and easily. You can’t just wave a magic wand and make it happen Who do you think would do a better job than Gainey, and how do you think it would be done?
Just take the rational approach here — look at the Habs roster at the start of Gainey’s tenure, and look at the one he has now — it is now much stronger, that should be undeniable, and the farm team is very strong, unlike then. It’s actually staggering actually how little that old Habs team had to work with.
Isn't that too simplistic though
look at the Habs roster at the start of Gainey’s tenure, and look at the one he has now — it is now much stronger, that should be undeniable, and the farm team is very strong, unlike then.
There are other issues like cap flexibility. The argument can be made that they are in a worse position than they were 2 years ago.
So he built a strong team, then ripped apart his work. My question still remains why?
We need answers!
Not only do we have Gainey to ask questions why he ripped this team but also questions have to be asked to Pierre Boivin what the future lies for this organization of ours. He is, after all, the President of the Club and sometimes I wonder what goes on inside his head more than Bob’s.
We will win the Cup only with a mature Carey Price in the nets
Because he needed to get younger, especially at forward, and needed more NHL talent on defense.
A lot of noise has been made of the high turnover and how Gainey “ripped the team apart”, but most of the players that got cycled out were bottom-pairing D-men and bottom-6 forwards. The number of truly important players that got replaced is much shorter, and included players who were really one-year rentals (though I don’t think Tanguay was originally meant to be one). In terms of “winning more games” I think the plan was to get better 5-on-5 forwards to improve the team’s subpar 5-on-5 game, keep on trucking with superior special teams, and replicate the 07-08 formula of being a decent-good 5-on-5 team and using the PP to get over the top. Good plan, IMHO, even if the execution failed badly — the Habs are a very poor 5-on-5 team, but I don’t think they should be given their roster.
The top forwards who were replaced were old (Kovalev, Lang), prematurely aged (Koivu), or deemed to be a bad fit for nebulous reasons (Tanguay). The forward unit was rebuilt around Kostitsyn and Plekanec, who were the engine of the 07-08 season and the reason the Habs were a decent-to-good 5-on-5 team that year. The idea was to get younger guys who could grow with the young vets and the up-and-coming kids, such as Sergei Kostitsyn, Latendresse (now Pouliot) and Pacioretty (whose readiness was probably over-evaluated). Even if Koivu, Kovalev, and say Lang had been retained, we’d have had to go through this process in a couple of years, so it made sense to get started now so the new core would have a few years to mesh.
On D, there are several prospects who are still a year or two away, so the signings (Gill, Mara) were mostly stopgap designed to increase the unit’s ability level (outside of Komisarek, the replaced players were the likes of Bouillon, Dandenault, Brisebois, etc.) Spacek was brought in as a top-4 D-man to replace Komisarek, and to bring in much-needed transition passing skill, which might be useful if Martin was able/willing to implement that crisp transition game he’s famous for. In 2-3 years, this unit will presumably be headlined by Markov and Subban, Hamrlik is likely to be gone, and Spacek might well be patrolling the second pairing with Carle or Weber.
I’ve always felt the “ripping the team apart” bit was misconstrued as “trying to buy a team through free agency” and was really a long-term approach intrinsically built around the team’s youth. This isn’t a case of trading youth for old hands here. Gainey willingly gave up one young vet who was no longer in the plans (Higgins) and one prospect (McDonagh) for his makeover. The only other young guy he lost was Komisarek — and he tried to retain Komisarek but Komi decided he’d rather leave, perhaps not such a bad thing in retrospect. All in all, the team actually got younger. It seems worse than it is because Spacek is taking the much younger Komisarek’s minutes, but Bouillon, Breezer, and Dandy were all over 30.
Cap flexibility is very precious to pundits and bloggers, but I think it’s clear that NHL GMs do not value it nearly as highly. Cap flexibility (lots of very short-term contract) is ultimately what led to all this turnaround last off-season, after all.
The makeover was going to have to happen sooner or later due to the age of the players involved, and sooner was always going to be better so the team had more time to mesh together. What made it particularly striking was that so many players were replaced in one year — if the moves had been staggered over three years the effect would have been similar but wouldn’t have struck our imaginations so much.
If I was too harsh, I apologize but I could write a book on how the organization can be reshaped from a fans perspective but I have no time and perhaps Robert or some other blog will give me the opportunity in the summer to write my report on the state of the Habs. But as much as Bobby was a great player, his managerial skills are very weak and I, for one want him out and I’d like to see a fresh new outlook on this team and if we have to rebuild so be it.
I believe 6 years is plenty for Bob to shape this team, I did not like what he did this summer nor will I like what he is doing with the club for the future.
Why is it that my hometown Bulldogs (which I am a strong supporter and season ticket holder) do so well, yet when they graduate to the NHL, most players are a flop?
I don’t have all the answers but Bob and Trevor do. When will we get answers from them?
Emelin, Korneev, 2 Russain prospects are still in Russia, Valentenko another prospect traded, Weber in Hamilton, in my opinion not ready, where is there a big natural scorer in Hamilton we have besides the small hard working Desharnis?
Questions, questions questions, but no answers from anyone in La Ville est Hockey.
We will win the Cup only with a mature Carey Price in the nets
As far as natural scorers go, Cammalleri isn’t very big but he certainly delivers. But that’s beside the point, I know.
I think in hindsight I wonder if Bob wasn’t over-optimistic when it comes to the bottom of the lineup. Kids like D’Agostini, SKost and Pacioretty will, at some point in time, be valuable NHLers, but they are not right now. Not only that, but they need to be surrounded by quality player, otherwise they simply bleed chances, territorial advantage, whatever else is needed to win a hockey game. They already can contribute from time to time but between them and a fringe NHLer (Lapierre), two solid vet (Métro and Moen) and an over the hill brawler (guess who?) and a converted D-Man (Bergie), this is a terrible bottom-6 and we just don’t have enough torque in the top-6 to compensate. In an ideal world, we’d have 2 of these guys replaced by Moen/Métro type, veterans who are no great shakes but understand their role and can be relied on to never stray from the game plan, no matter what.
And then, there is the “system”. But I beleive whatever said system is about, having a few less kids running around the ice would help it look better. Methinks Darche being recalled instead of one of the youngsters is a telling sign.
I can’t wait to read your summer analysis.
I did not like what he did this summer nor will I like what he is doing with the club for the future.
Always fun to hear what an already closed-minded critic has to say.
On another note, being in Hamilton… How long till Guy Boucher is ready? Not many people criticising that Gainey manoeuver now, are there?

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