Transactions of the Gainey Regime 2003-04 to 2009-10
by Robert L on Jul 17, 2009 1:15 AM EDT
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Seeing as July 1 has now come and gone, I thought it would be interesting to look at all player moves made by Bob Gainey since taking over the GM's chair in Montreal on June 3, 2003. These are just the plain facts on roster moves, trades, draft picks and other transactions during the Gainey regime in Montreal from 2003 to the present July 2009. The analysis is all yours! The chronological listing includes all moves (players acquired by trade, draft, waivers or free agent signings) on the Canadiens roster and similar relevant moves concerning the Hamilton Bulldogs roster since 2003. Each seasonal recap will feature a final roster of all players who played for the Canadiens in that particular season, and a listing of departed players. Where possible, it will be noted the means by which a player has left the organization. Also in the recaps will be a list of players transaction for that campaign, along with the a listing of the players drafted into the organization in June of that year. Additionally, within each individual season post you will see a hyperlink reading "Players stats / Canadiens games / NHL Season Summary" from the Hockey Reference site in which you can investigate a particular season's details more closely. For clarification purposes, each individual season recap begins with a roster of players from the preceding season, followed by transactions completed after the final game of that season. Exceptions will include minor pro players signed for the benefit of an upcoming season. The recaps (access each season by clicking the links) is divided into seven seperate posts, reading as follows:
The Gainey Regime 2003-04: Year One - An Organizational Recap and Look Back on 2002-03
The Gainey Regime 2004-05: Year X - The Lockout
The Gainey Regime 2005-06: Year Two
The Gainey Regime 2006-07: Year Three
The Gainey Regime 2007-08: Year Four
The Gainey Regime 2008-09: Year Five
The Gainey Regime 2009-10: Year Six - A Recap of Moves Made from the Seven Previous Seasons
Notations for players will be included in each recapped season, and are as follows.
(*) denotes players currently on the Canadiens NHL roster.
(+H) denotes players currently on the Hamilton Bulldogs AHL roster.
(+HM) denotes players currently on the Hamilton roster who have played with Montreal.
(P) denotes prospects who have yet to sign a professional contract (NHL, AHL, or ECHL) with the organization.
(-M), (-H) and (-MH) denote players no longer in the organization who have played either in Montreal, Hamilton, or both.
(--) denotes a player who has never played in Montreal or Hamilton. The final group likely never signed a professional contract with the club and were simply not retained by the organization. A final tally of each category will follow these chronological yearly listings.
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Holy Toledo...
Out of 81 players over a 6 yr span, 2 are remaining. That’s nuts.
As for all of the changes made in the first 4 yrs I see a deepening of the talent pool, and have no negative thoughts on anything that Gainey did in those years.
I cannot believe the team he inherited in 2003. One line of offence with tonnes of bangers. Gritty but not an offensive bunch.
As for the last three years there has been more talk about what could happen than actually did happen.
We sit here in the belachers and criticize the Gms of all our favorite sports teams, but often don’t get to see what that ‘have done for us lately’. We think the changes are horrible and can’t believe he pulled the trigger on some of the deals we see recently, but, there is definitely a positive in the amount of offensive talent that Gainey has been able to lure to La Belle Province. As much as many say it is hard to lure the big fish with Gainey’s mini-net, lookin at these moves in this way we see that he has been able to make a long term difference to our historied franchise.
Thanks again for the indepth look at what Gainey has done. My faith has been regained, and I am willing to dismiss earlier comments about what we should have done, should this version the Habs gel and make a go of it this season. I do think with the pumped up D and the hopeful changes coming from the pre-seaon we are playoff bound. I could care less the Leafs have a Monster, the Sens can’t get rid of one, and well Buff and Boston really didn’t make any splashes or deletions to their current rosters, so I can’t see us not making the playoffs this year.
Here’s to Gainey’s systematic re-visioning of the Habs.
by Cruisin4aBruisin on Jul 17, 2009 8:31 AM EDT reply actions
I’m surprised the first comments here are positive.
You’ve renewed my faith that there are still optomistic fans out there.
As for my own evaluation of Gainey’s body of work, it’s on hold here until the club hits the ice October 1. When one looks through this list, there’s good moves and bad moved, just like every GM in the league.
Colossal work
The thing is this:
One horrible move: Ribeiro (maybe he needed to be traded, but Niniima was a bad return)
One awesome move: Kovalev (like him or not, who is Balej anyway? And he had a huge impact on the team).
But, after last season and the recent moves, all of it comes down to how good the current team is going to be. This team is almost all Gainey (built through draft, free agents, waivers and trades). Only two players remain that were there before Bob: Markov and Plekanec.
So if this team shows signs of greatness: Bob is a genius.
If they just plain suck… no excuses.
It’ll probably somewhere in between, and in Bob we will still trust.
I wasn’t a big fan of Mickey Ribs, but you’re right, the return on him was dreadful.
Incidentally, on the Kovalev trade, Rangers Glen Sather was given his pick between Jozef Bajej and Tomas Plekanec. He chose Balej, as he was theleading scorer in Hamilton at the time.
So, considering the aborted Lecavalier deal, you could almost say one player of the two remains in Montreal by default!
I think what hurts the most in all of this, at least for me, is the players waived out of Montreal.
Hainsey and Beauchemin? Damn… what would our blue line look like had we not thrown these 2 guys away? Obviously it’s easier to say now, with hindsight and everything… but still.
Well
The problem with Beauchemin is, if I’m not mistaken, that Bob wasn’t intent on letting him go; they simply botched the managment of his contract with the new rules and had Colombus snatch him away. It wasn’t a huge mistake at the time, but it was (again, if I’m not mistaken), a brutal mistake.
As for the 2 out of 81 players, I have one problem with that number, and it’s that we just don’t have a basis of comparison; I guess it would be nice to just do that for the other 29 clubs. Wouldn’t be surprised if we found out that those making a better score than us did son because they had first-rate young talent at the time, talent they signed long term. I mean, do we really miss Zednik?
You are right on both counts.
Beauchemin was a re-entry waivers booboo. People tend to forget that he was also claimed off waivers by Anaheim from Columbus not long after. Those who knew it was a big mistake back then must have amazing foresight.
On the comparison basis idea, I’d be willing to guess that most players remaining with their respective clubs from 2003 to today are essentially franchise players, with some exceptions.
Detroit for example, still has from 2002-03: Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Maltby, Draper, and Holmstrom.
NJ, who the Cup in 2003, has only Elias, Pandolfo, White and Brodeur.
Tampa who won the following season has only Lecavalier and St.Louis. Prospal has been dealt and reacquired twice.
If you’d like to investigate a little further, here’s the 2002-03 season from Hockey DB. Just click on the individual team links to see the roster’s from that season.
Well, it looks like it’ll be cold and rainy this week-end, so why not?
By the by, I also like hockey-reference.com… They only have the NHL seasons registered, but they do have some nifty stats, including my favourite set: adjusted goals, assists and points, giving us a crude tool to compare players between era. I’m not sure how good it is, but it’s interesting.
That being said, looking at Zed’s page on H-R kinda made me change my mind about him. He was never the same after the lock out (people point to MacLaren’s hit, but I think it’s more related to a Hernia he had just prior to the lock-out robbed him of that physical edge he had down low…), but his run from 2001 to 04 was pretty good! The crappy PP we had robbed him of a couple of millions bucks I think, because he did put up 18, 22 and 19 ES goals… In the more offense – prone post-lock out era, 2 players came near him for the habs: Kovalev last year (18 ESG) and AKost this year (17 ESG). Higgins topped at 15 last year, Ryder never went over 15…
Jeebus, what a crappy even-strength we’ve had over the last few years… I think it’ll be interesting to see what Martin can do with those guys Bob just hired…
LOL, I didn’t post the link. Here it is:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/nhl19272003.html
Hockey Reference/ Habs:
http://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/MTL/
On Zednik, I often found him more tentative after the McLaren KO. He just didn’t seem to have his old patented “cut in wide fron the outside” move anymore. Contrary to popular belief though, he posted his best seasons after the hit, with 31 goals in 2004-05 and 26 the following year.
Good stuff
Hockeydb and H-R are must see, really.
re: Zednik… Ok, Apologies to whomever it annoys, but I’ll rant now:
I never bought the tentativeness story about Zednik. And the results tells it like it is I think. These guys make it to the top because they are made of pretty tough stuff. I remember Gill, then a Bruins, checking Koivu into an open bench door during the 01-02 playoffs, what, 5 games after he got back from Chemo? Commenters would talk about how intimidating the Bruins (and the hulking Gill, whose Body language at the time clearly told he felt he had just sent a message of intimidation to a smaller, and thus intimidable forward) were…
What they weren’t commenting was the grin on Koivu’s face. That grin, to me, is one of the most precious lessons I was taught about pro hockey and pro sports in general: these guys (not just Koivu) give everything up for the game. The smaller ones spend 10, 15 years getting smacked around by guys twice their size. They make it to the top because they have talent and the balls to go trough whatever it takes. Zednik had his neck sliced last year and what did he do? He had Buffalo Wings with his (smokin’ hot) girlfriend at the hospital. Maybe that’s the things that, in the end, will make him a nutcase and send him over the edge, but that won’t happen befor the end of his pro career. Those who perform at that level do so because they understand ans accept the risks of the trade. Have a look at the end of this article:
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2004/08/04/zednik040804.html
At the time this was being written as an aside in a story about Zed signing a big contract, but it also was a year after a similar injury had transformed, before the very eyes of the few of us who still were watching the expos, Vlad Guerrero into a Hall Gill look-alike on the field. Still a heck of a hitter, but he lost the nimbleness, the mobility that made him a 40/40 threat.
I remember that injury because I tought that was the end of Zednik as a top-end offensive threat and I always felt vindicated by it. The guy was done in by his back, not his guts. My point here is, when a guy who’s been a solid performer falls trough the floor at the age of 29-30, well, it’s most probably not about desire.
Sorry for the rant…
Beauchemin was traded to the Ducks in the Federov deal
www.fantasysensehockey.blogspot.com
Gainey
Honestly, Gainey has done a lot more good than I had remembered. Look at the team he inherited, and look at how he built our team into a First in the East team in 4 years. Sure they fucking dropped the ball last year, but how much of that can be held against Gainey? He made a team that had the skill and ability, but they couldn’t pull it together last year.
Now, he has finally made it a city that some decent free agents were willing to sign for, and he still has his character guys, and young guys coming up from the minors. The fact that the Canadiens have done as well as they have with what they had for the past 5 years or so is shocking and a testament to what Gainey has done for us since coming in.
Good job man
Not really, that’s so look like a post someone did on HFBoards and copied on another forum.
Just so you know, I posted it first back on March 4, 2009.
http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2009/3/4/780158/transactions-of-the-gainey
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