Losing Komisarek, Another Gainey Riddler!
I don't get this at all!
The Canadiens draft a defensemen in the first round eight seasons ago, and he matures into a top performer. Two summers ago, they sign him kinda cheap - at $1.9M - and he becomes a key member of the team, even playing in this season's All Star Game in Montreal. For two seasons now, he has been a top pairing defenseman on the club, near the top of the league in blocked shots and hits.
His date with free agent destiny comes, and the Canadiens just let him walk.....to their longest standing rivals for a reasonable price.
The Canadiens could have easily matched the offer Mike Komisarek received from the Maple Leafs today. Gainey in fact made allusions last week that Komisarek was his priority.
I'm starting to not believe, and not believe in Bob Gainey very much anymore.
With Komisarek's money, the Canadiens added Jaroslav Spacek at $3.5M per year. He'll be 38 when that contract ends. They also took on lumbering Hal Gill, who doesn't quite make up in reach, what he lacks in speed. Add in his $1.2, and you have Komisarek salary but little of his attributes.
Everyone's been down on Komisarek since the night he became Milan Lucic's punching bag. He was hardly the same player after, but I've always believed he was playing hurt. He sure looked it. All his on ice gestures became tentative. His passing went from safe and calculated to reckless and wild. He attempted hits when he should have remained poised. He lost his instinct for playing the man instead of the puck.
Perhaps it was just another case of a player trying to do too much in a contract season. In attempting to become a leader, he started lacking leadership by not concentrating on his own work. In the final quarter season, he became almost pitiful to watch.
The 2007-08 Komisarek is worth $4.5M, not so for the 2009 version.
In 2009-10, Komisarek could well rebound to his old self, and at the salary he signed for, it would have been more than worth the risk for Montreal. There were up to ten teams - it is told - negotiating with Komisarek today. Had he not panned out as a newly signed Hab, he could surely have fetched a good return.
It's solid management to parlay first rounders into first rounders when they depart. Sign and trade is a better option than signing off. A GM that can better evaluate on the fly would have gotten something for Komisarek.
The Canadiens get squat for their "priority" player, and have turned to "bouche - trous" costing the same to fill his spot.
Had the Canadiens signed Spacek and Gill as a reaction to losing Komisarek, such a reaction would almost seem plausible.
Why Gainey signed them first, and then signed off ofn Komisarek is a riddle of vaste proportions!
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shaking head
I am beginning to believe that Gainey’s patience came from circumstance.
The Habs dodged a huge bullet when Briere said no, but that signing was no different than this.
I just don’t see how this addresses weaknesses? How have these 4 players made this team a
STANLEY CUP contender?
Is that not the goal? This is like shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic.
My last hope to avoid 1993 t-shirts 20 years from now is that Price/Kostitsyn make the leap.
A very shocking and disappointing day.
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by Wamsley on Jul 1, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just wondering....
The fact that Bob went out and got spacek and gill (a little note: when watching the Cup finals this year with a buddy {the buddy’s a leaf fan and remembers Gill well} I mentioned how it must be real handy having Gil in the lineup because he could reach into the net and pick the puck out with his stick without even having to enter the crease - after having caused the goal in first place with his lack of mobility and very poor coverage!) before we heard about Komo signing has me wondering- did Bob maybe know something we didn’t? Namely, did Komo ever intend to consider resigning with Montreal in the first place?
The fact that the salary was so close to what we figured Bob would hand out to Komo makes this (to me at least) a plausible scenario.
What do you guys think? Did Gainey lose his ever-loving mind and make the situation worse, or did he do what he could given the situation he was facing? I’d love to hear what you guys reckon
by subdoxastic on Jul 1, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps he saw how the Habs defense ended the season and sought two bodies instead of one. I’d have liked to get Rob Scuderi.
I think he blew it Komi. So much for priorities.
by Robert L on Jul 1, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I kinda had the feeling that Komisarek wasn’t going to re-sign with the Habs. I don’t think he appreciated the way the fans/media treated him towards the latter half of the season when he wasn’t playing up to par. I think he was pretty intent on leaving and has just been polite about it.
Spacek is a decent pickup, but I’m skeptical about Gill. They’ve already got a big slow guy who’s much younger in Ryan O’Byrne. :P
by Bert3d on Jul 1, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry
didn’t realize that the curly brackets cause the strike-out function— it was meant to be a bracket within a bracket.
That’ll teach me for being too parenthetical!
by subdoxastic on Jul 1, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
To clarify Robert, Komisarek was only an All-Star last season because of a stuffed fan ballot, not because of his play.
A year ago I would have deemed signing Komisarek a priority. However, he regressed badly this year. This season the Canadiens were hoping he would take a step forward. Instead he took two back.
After losing his fight with Milan Lucic he wasn’t the same player. It almost felt as if he had lost his machismo. Furthermore his deteriation exposed other holes in his game. Obviously, he was never going to be an offensive force but his inabilty to make good passes out of his own end combined with his propensity for taking bad penalties spelled the end of his time in Montreal. To be honest watching him in the playoffs without his partner made me question how much of his success could be attributed to his pairing with Andrei Markov.
Honestly, I think many are jumping the gun on Gainey’s moves this year. I find it hard to judge this team when I still don’t know the entire roster. I do however, remember last year’s roster and how it massively underachieved. You’ll notice that during today’s free agent frenzy, there doesn’t seem to be a stampede to sign some of last years Habs (now turned free agents). I think that speaks to how many of us maybe have overvalued their talent.
by T.C. on Jul 1, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Time will indeed tell, but I’d have gambled on Komisarek finding his form alongside markov once more.
It is very true that playing the stuffed All Star away from the real one exposed a bunch of his warts. The Leafs and Tomas Kaberle can deal with that now.
I don’t see it as the Canadiens overachieving one year versus underachieving the next. The lineup earned what it earned each year and injuries and lack thereof helped and then hindered.
When five less wins are all it takes to skid from first to eighth, I find it hard to overeact much. For me, it has been the young kids that failed to step up, and not the dependable vets, that hurt most.
by Robert L on Jul 1, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Truth be told, both of us wish we could be a fly on the wall in Gainey’s office.
I’m a Gainey fan but a seeming lack of a cohesive plan along with the habit of being reactive instead of active is disappointing to say the least. For the last while it seem’s if the team has been operating without any sort of plan and that’s no way to run a successful operation.
by T.C. on Jul 1, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That is the crux of my concern
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by Wamsley on Jul 1, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sense no plan whatsoever. They had gotten smaller, older, and more expensive.
by Robert L on Jul 1, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mind Boggling
I think the difference was about $500K and perhaps a 2-year differential on contract term. Why the 2 sides did not settle on some sort of a middle ground is beyond me. Speak volume of Komisarek’s loyalty.
by EDML on Jul 1, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now Gionta as well? WOW
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by Wamsley on Jul 1, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, we know Gionta and Gomez showed they have some chemistry between them, so it could work out pretty well for us.
by ronniech on Jul 1, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe, but that contract seems out of line, panicky, almost.
by Robert Cleave on Jul 1, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not so sure. Trading for Gomez, then signing a player who should play well with him smells much more of forward planning than a desperate “I’ve got to sign someone”.
by ronniech on Jul 1, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Signing him is one thing, but wasting cap space is another. He got a 4 million dollar contract off a 48 goal year, which he hasn’t sniffed since. Was there so much market demand for Gionta that Gainey had to pay that kind of money? I guess I’m a bit skeptical.
by Robert Cleave on Jul 1, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So let me get this straight
The Cap may go down to the $50M range
and the Habs have a core of Gomez/Markov/Cammallari/Gionta taking up close to 50% of the cap?
WOW
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by Wamsley on Jul 1, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the large contracts for all the new forwards kind of scares me
by Scotty G on Jul 1, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus the fact that this new forward line is locked in for the next 5 years is even scarier. If they don’t play up to par, those salaries are gonna be like dead weights that they’ll have a hard time getting rid of. If Gainey has screwed this all up, it means it could take up to 5 years to undo all the damage. $18+ million a year for 5 years for 3 only above average players. Scary thoughts indeed!
by Bert3d on Jul 1, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, they signed Kovalev at least….
Koivu almost certainly gone.
by nyhabsfan on Jul 1, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No mention of Kovalev being signed yet. If he does, all of a sudden he’s going to be the new power forward now that they’ve gone small! :P
by Bert3d on Jul 1, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
by nyhabsfan on Jul 1, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That didn’t actually end up happening, despite being announced all over the place. According to Bob, it was between signing Gionta, or resigning either Kovalev or Tanguay (not so sure about the latter). Kovalev apparently took too long to respond after being offered a deal, I think, which led to the current state of things.
by ronniech on Jul 1, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WWWWHHHHHAAAAAT?
Are you serious Spacek and Gill don’t make up for Komisarek. I think Komisarek was a key guy on the ice at times throughout his development but his puck movement was suspect at best and take Markov off his hip (i.e when Markov went down to injury) and Komisarek was mediocre at best. His attitude was good but so is Gill’s and Spacek is one of the best puck moving d-men in the league. Forget the 48 points he put last year compared to Komi’s 11. Spacek is a slighly worse Markov as far as passing goes and he has a bullet one timer that was sorely missed last year. If we keep Shneider some how our pp is going to light it up with Spacek feeding Mrkov and vica versa and Shneider filling in on the second unit. The only signing that was a bit disconcerning was Gomez only because of the cap hit but if he and Gionta rekindle even a fraction of the fire they caught in Jersey our team will loook extremely dangerous. Trust in Gainey. the man knows. The room needed a facelift. The chemistry in the room was awful last season obviosly and Gainey has booted out the bad elements with the exception of the k brothers but thier problems were more off the ice than in the room. Tanguay is replaced by a much tougher and better Cammaleri. Our top six forwards look pretty damn fast and skilled to me. The question of size keeps coming up and i hate this idea the anal systs around the league have of smaller players. The NHL changed its rules for a reason and more rule changes will be coming to open up the ice for these players that play thier hearts out and always get pegged as too small for this or that team. its rediculous. is St-Louis too small. Parise, Kane, Toews, Gagner, Cogliano and on and on. No, not too small on thier respective teams but if ever they get traded to Montreal suddenly they will be too small for the Habs. Camaleri was the highest scoring UFA available and still these idiots on tsn, sportsnet, espn, the score etc,, call the Habs too small and Gomez and Gionta too small what a joke.
by jeff549 on Jul 2, 2009 3:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ok
Wamsley, i have many issues with the comments but i will focus on yours. A cup contender? are you serious man. Who out there would have made us a cup contender. Hossa—twelve years 5.5 a year, Havlat—another player we all would have called too small, Heatley -dream on, Lecavalier-dream again, i mean seriosly who? The Habs are nowhere near a cup, they can’t even say cup without laughing into thier shirt cuffs. So what can Gainey do but make his team immediately faster and more skilled plus add a few character guys to his room. There is no desperation in Gainey did you ever watch this guy play, he never panics and these players were in his sights for years. He has anted Gomez since he came to Montreal as GM, Gionta also has been on top of his list for wingers, a fast, gritty, gifted player, Camalerri he went after already in the past and lost out to Calgary where he scored 39 goals and will probably match that in Montreal if not improve on it. But make us a cup contendere Gainey was not trying to do. let’s be honest with ourselves. When Price learns to stop drinking a six pack an hour before games maybe we’ll have a shot but for know let’s have some of that textbook Gainey patience.
by jeff549 on Jul 2, 2009 4:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Komisarek
Robert I have to disgaree with you here. Komisarek was a great stay at home defenseman who blocked shots and hit a lot but what else? Not much really. Needless to say he had a subpar season. I listened to what he had to say on TSN and it didn’t make much sense to me as to why he left the Habs. Grossly overpaid by the Leafs. He’s got a lot of heart but the Habs were looking for something different. I think with Gill the upside is that even though he’s huge he moves quite well for a big D and that he can pot a few more goals than Komisarek. The latter was overrated and again, his explanation as to why he left is baloney so in the end he will not be missed. Yes he was a leader and blah blah blah but there is just something missing with Komisarek. I like the acquisitions Gainey has made. It’s time to move in a new direction. The habs of the last few yrs were entertaining but something was missing. They overachieved two seasons ago and this past season they came back down to earth. Not good enough. Gainey is right on and people have to stop giving him crap. One thing’s for sure Robert: the Habs of 09-10 will be entertaining! Lots of speed and grit. I think the lack of size is an overrated issue.
And please next time you’re asked to write an obituary for the Bruins please do it with more venom!!!! But I like the stuff you write most of the time even though I don’t always agree with you here and there.
by fpy on Jul 3, 2009 12:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That obit sucked – didn’t it?
For reasons too numerous to mention, I just didn’t have it in me to come up with much that day. I got tons of hate mail for it tho!
by Robert L on Jul 3, 2009 3:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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