Habs Have Dreadful Record After Road Poundings
by Robert L on Oct 9, 2009 11:41 AM EDT
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Since the 2000-01 season, the Canadiens have lost games in which 6 goals or more have been scored against them a total of 34 times. Their record in followup games is a hardly resillient 13-18-2 Here are some further statistical breakdowns: 6 goals were scored against them in 24 of the initial losses, 7 goals against in 6 losses, and 8 against in 4 losses. The Canadiens record after 8 goals against is 0-4, after 7 against 5-1, and after 6 against 8-13-2. Of the 33* followup games to the 34 losses, 15 have come on home ice where the Canadiens record is 6-7-2. In 18 road games following losses in which they have allowed 6 or more goals, the Canadiens record in 2-16. The Canadiens next game is in Edmonton where they have not won since the Heritage Classic on November 22, 2003. * The Saturday, April 7, 2007 game in Toronto had no followup as it was the final game of the season. Losses in which the Canadiens have allowed 6 or more goals since the 1999-2000 season: 2008-09 Wednesday, February 11, Oilers 7 Canadiens 2 in Edmonton followed up with a 4-2 win in Colorado two nights later Monday, February 9, 2009, Flames 6, Canadiens 2 in Calgary followed up by a 7-2 loss in Edmonton two nights later Thursday, November 13, 2008 Bruins 6 Montreal 1 in Boston followed up by a 2-1 loss in Philadelphia two nights later
Saturday, November 8, 2008 Maple Leafs 6 Montreal 3 in Toronto followed up with a 4-0 win over Ottawa in Montreal three nights later Saturday, October 25, 2008 Ducks 6 Canadiens 4 in Montreal followed up with a 3-2 SO win over Carolina in Montreal three nights later 2007-08 Monday, March 3, 2008 Sharks 6 Canadiens 4 in San Jose followed up by a 4-2 win in Phoenix three nights later Saturday, February 9, 2008 Senators 6 Canadiens 1 in Ottawa followed up by a 3-2 loss in Tampa Bay three nights later 2006-07 Saturday, April 7, 2007 Maple Leafs 6 Canadiens 5 last game of the season Friday March 16, 2007 Penguins 6 Canadiens 3 in Pittsburgh followed by a 3-2 SO win over the Maple Leafs the following night in Montreal Thursday, March 8, 2007 Thrashers 6 Canadiens 2 in Atlanta followed by a 3-2 win in St. Louis two nights later Friday, March 2, 2007 Sabres 8 Montreal 5 in Buffalo followed by a 3-1 loss in Boston the following night Saturday, January 12, 2007 Senators 8 Montreal 3 in Ottawa followed up by a 2-0 loss in Detroit two nights later Monday, December 4, 2006 Bruins 6 Canadiens 5 in Montreal followed up by a 2-1 OT loss in New Jersey two nights later 2005-06 Tuesday, January 31 Hurricanes 8 Canadiens 2 in Montreal followed by a 3-1 loss in Boston two nights later Monday, January 23, 2006 Hurricanes 7 Canadiens 3 in Carolina followed by a 5-3 win in Philadelphia two nights later Saturday, January 21, 2006 Canucks 6 Montreal 2 in Vancouver followed by a 7-3 loss in Carolina two nights later Tuesday, January 3, 2006 Penguins 6 Canadiens 4 in Montreal followed by a 5-4 loss in New Jersey two nights later 2003-04 Saturday, October 25, 2003 Senators 6 Canadiens 2 in Montreal followed by a 5-0 loss in Philadelphia two nights later 2002-03 Thursday, March 20, 2003 Islanders 6 Canadiens 3 in Montreal followed by a 5-3 win over Hurricanes in Montreal two nights later Thursday, February 27 Wild 6 Canadiens 3 in Montreal followed by a 1-1 OT tie against Canucks in Montreal two nights later Thursday, February 6, 2003 Bruins 6 Canadiens 3 in Boston followed by a 3-1 loss in Toronto two nights later Friday, December 6, 2002 Avalanche 7 Canadiens 6 in Colorado followed by a 4-2 win in Phoenix the following night Saturday, November 23 Hurricanes 7 Canadiens 3 in Montreal followed by a 3-2 win over Thrashers in Montreal Thursday, October 24 Flyers 6 Canadiens 2 in Philadelphia followed by a 5-3 win over Senators two nights later in Montreal Tuesday, October 15, 2002 Flyers 6 Canadiens 2 in Montreal followed by a 3-2 win in Detroit two nights later Saturday, October 12, 2002 Sabres 6 Canadiens 1 in Montreal followed by a 6-2 loss to Flyers two nights later in Montreal 2001-02 Monday, January 21, 2002 Panthers 7 Canadiens 5 in Florida followed by a 5-3 win in Washington two nights later Sunday, January 6, 2002 Oilers 7 Canadiens 6 in Edmonton followed by a 4-2 loss in Minnesota two nights later Saturday, December 29, 2001 Islanders 6 Canadiens 5 in New York followed by a 5-2 loss in Vancouver four nights later Saturday, December 15, 2001 Maple Leafs 6 Canadiens 4 in Toronto followed by a 4-3 loss in Tampa Bay two nights later Saturday, November 3, 2001 Flames 6 Canadiens 2 in Calgary followed by a 1-1 OT tie against Avalanche three nights later in Montreal 2000-01 Saturday, February 17, 2001 Capitals 6 Canadiens 3 in Montreal followed by a 4-0 loss in Ottawa the following night Saturday, November 18, 2000 Maple Leafs 6 Canadiens 1 in Montreal followed by a 4-1 loss to Panthers three nights later in Montreal Friday, October 6, 2000 Devils 8 Canadiens 4 in New Jersey followed by a 2-0 loss in Toronto the following night
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There’s quite a few 7-6, 6-5, 7-5 type of games in there, which I wouldn’t really consider “poundings,” as such. I wonder what it looks like if you add the restriction that the goal differential must also be at least four?
Actually, I don’t have to wonder. I added it up and got 6-10-1. Never mind, then.
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by Doogie2K on Oct 9, 2009 4:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry Robert, but this is one of those stats I find pretty useless. The team has changed so much that it’s kind of irrelevant.
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by Andrew Berkshire on Oct 9, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Depends how one looks at it.
It doesn’t concern the individual players at all. Teams per se, after bad drubbings, don’t usually come back strong the following night, especially on the road. You can pick any team from any era and study this predicament. There is relevance when you look hard enough for it.
by Robert L on Oct 9, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how much would the results would vary if you studied the Islanders in relation to the Wings? Because in that case it isn’t about resilience, it would be just that a poor team doesn’t have the ability to bounce back because they are a poor team.
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by Wamsley on Oct 9, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There could be a zillion things that factor in, such as days rest between games, quality of opposition, number of regular players out of each lineup, etc. What I did was a simple surface generalization that shows that on average, teams take some time to bounce back, weak or strong.
In doing this research, there wasn’t a point I set out to prove, as I didn’t know exactly what the findings would be. In tallying up the stats, I left out a few perceptions, and readers here or at HIO didn’t pick up on them.
While the overall record looks dismal, the Canadiens of the last two seasons – generally considered a strong club – were 6-6 in the last 12 games following 6 goal or more defeats. So in a sense, a more resillient Canadiens version has had a better record than the editions that came before it.
We will find out Saturday, which group this current bunch fits in with.
by Robert L on Oct 9, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not questioning the research, just wondering if there would be a major difference.
It is likely considering Detroit only loses once every 2 weeks.
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by Wamsley on Oct 9, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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